Life saver, and people who don't
Life saver, and people who don't
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HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

297 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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As a motorcyclist I was taught to look over my shoulder before changing lane, for example an overtake manoeuvre. I rarely see car drivers do this, and have NEVER seen a cyclist check before wobbling past a parked car. Do we think this is okay, for any road user?

Jasandjules

72,168 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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No.

I do it all the time. I've had passengers ask me what I am doing. The same as when I am asking them to move so I can see the slip road clearly on my left...

VinceFox

20,566 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Always.

12v3pot

5,135 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Always. I can still remember driving one time that I didn't, when going to overtake on the A12> I came VERY close to causing a lot of a grief (to a very quick motorcyclist).

As a cyclist, it's natural to me, too.

williredale

2,866 posts

178 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Always do it. Wish the woman who pulled out in front of me yesterday had done so as it was bum clenchingly close...

Toltec

7,179 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Do it all the time, but then I used to ride bikes. When cycling I did not always look round, I knew there was a car there as I could hear it and planned appropriately.


fitz1985

180 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I had this drilled into me by my driving instructor, and by my IAM instructor.

Actually an interesting observation was made by my IAM assessor for the test who pointed out that at times I almost 'overdid' the life-safer by looking back further than was necessary and in that spent a fraction longer not observing the road ahead. Much like people joining down a slip road who spend too long looking for a gap in the traffic and not at any obstruction that might be further down the slip road.

John D.

20,585 posts

235 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I do it walking.

Centurion07

10,395 posts

273 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Started doing it as a friend failed his bike test after not doing one, having never heard the term before I asked him what it was, he explained and I've done it ever since (bikes and cars).

On a pushbike, I will still do it sometimes but not as religously as it's easier to hear vehicles coming behind you than it is on a motorbike or in a car.

digger the goat

2,851 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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All the time...!! Again even walking !!

Edit to say... It is the first thing I taught my wife after she passed her test, even though she had seen me do it...
She still does it religously..

Edited by digger the goat on Wednesday 22 May 20:48

Baryonyx

18,257 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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All time. One of the most usual things to know whilst driving. You never know when a superbike might have sneaked into your blind spot, so keep an eye on it. I hate being a passenger with a driver who isn't checking their blind spots. I also hate passengers that lean forward and obstruct my over-shoulder view on sliproads to my N/S...

rumple

14,273 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I always look, to many blind spots.

Blue Oval84

5,381 posts

187 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Always try to do it.

I forgot once, five hours into a six hour journey and promptly very nearly hit a van in the blind spot, swerved back to my lane and almost lost it.

I haven't forgotten again.

s p a c e m a n

11,809 posts

174 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I don't normally need to do a 'lifesaver' as I pay attention to what is around me all of the time, the only time I will look is if I have been stationary.

The one time I did look over my shoulder to change lane (because I was missing a mirror) the car infront of me broke and I hit it. Yes it was my fault as I was too close and it was a looooong looooong time ago paperbag

Spanna

3,737 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I do it a lot more since passing my bike test. Mainly because I do just as many miles on a bike than in a car, so it feels more natural. Always look coming off islands too, over the left shoulder if I'm taking 3rd+ exit and I have a quick look over the left shoulder when passin slip roads too. I too have had a passenger ask what I'm looking at/doing.

fitz1985

180 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Does anyone else check the passenger mirror when approaching to pass something like an HGV when in the outside in flowing traffic to spot the odd individual trying to squeeze through?

davepoth

29,395 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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A car driving passenger in my car actually had a go at me for doing a lifesaver a few days ago - didn't like me looking over my left shoulder and away from the road ahead...

Pulling back into lane one of an urban DC, plenty of cyclists and joining traffic, the kind of place where something can pop into the blind spot unnoticed.

jackh707

2,132 posts

182 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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John D. said:
I do it walking.
Thank god I'm not alone. I must be the consequence of riding everyday.

Walk down the street, right turn coming up, right shoulder check.
Shopping at the supermarket, turning the trolley into an isle, shoulder check.

I must look paranoid, I realise that I've done it each time feel stupid and try not to do it again. biggrin

Krikkit

27,894 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Sometimes I catch myself doing it when walking, most of the time I'm an irritating passenger by doing it whilst being driven...

Jimbo.

4,193 posts

215 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Always!

I forgot. Once. On my CBT. I can't repeat *exactly* what the instructor screamed down my earpiece, but suffice to say, my ear is still ringing, 14 years later.