Speed cameras situated in places that are dangerous
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Driving south west on the A3, from London, (within the M25 - around New Malden-ish but I can't recall excactly where) - there is a point where the A3 goes very quickly from 3 lanes to 2.
Hopefully someone knows where...
At that point, just after the roads merge, there is a speed camera. This appears to cause cars to speed up to overtake, nip in and then slam the brakes. Ok so perhaps people should not be speeding up (thats another topic) but I personally think that the location of the speed camera is poorly thought out.
I am sure that as its a lane merge there have probably historically been some incidents, hence the 'justification' for having a speed camera there but still if it causes a hazard surely it should not be there?
Apologies if this topic has been done to death.
Hopefully someone knows where...
At that point, just after the roads merge, there is a speed camera. This appears to cause cars to speed up to overtake, nip in and then slam the brakes. Ok so perhaps people should not be speeding up (thats another topic) but I personally think that the location of the speed camera is poorly thought out.
I am sure that as its a lane merge there have probably historically been some incidents, hence the 'justification' for having a speed camera there but still if it causes a hazard surely it should not be there?
Apologies if this topic has been done to death.
Probably happens frequently IMO. Take the A666 north, 2 lanes, 50 limit and a speed camera right before a slip road entry. This means cars all bunch up doing 48mph, if there's a car (or a row of cars) needing to enter, you have lost 2 of your direction changes instantly because of the camera. You cannot move over as traffic has bunched up and there's most probably a car on your right shoulder. You cannot speed up, because of the camera.
Admittedly, the slip road is quite long, but the majority of people do not see the long slip road and want to merge immediately.
https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=53.569422,-2.413452&...
Admittedly, the slip road is quite long, but the majority of people do not see the long slip road and want to merge immediately.
https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=53.569422,-2.413452&...
Just immediately after where the A14/A11 merge in Suffolk / Cambs here. You adjust your speed to the approaching traffic to merge safely (or to allow safe merging) only to have everyone (including the 
crowd doing <70mph) then brake for the impending speed camera. If the intention was to make the merge safer why not put the camera before the junction on the A11 or A14? The next junction is not for miles, IMO it can only be there as a revenue raiser 
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crowd doing <70mph) then brake for the impending speed camera. If the intention was to make the merge safer why not put the camera before the junction on the A11 or A14? The next junction is not for miles, IMO it can only be there as a revenue raiser . darren f said:
Just immediately after where the A14/A11 merge in Suffolk / Cambs here. You adjust your speed to the approaching traffic to merge safely (or to allow safe merging) only to have everyone (including the crowd doing <70mph) then brake for the impending speed camera. If the intention was to make the merge safer why not put the camera before the junction on the A11 or A14?
crowd doing <70mph) then brake for the impending speed camera. If the intention was to make the merge safer why not put the camera before the junction on the A11 or A14? 
Saw a near pile up the other day when a biker didn't anticipate cars easing up rather than expected moving off
@OP - at the hook interchange, where the A3 and the Kingston Bypass meet?
This camera is (I believe) there because the 50mph speed limit still applies for the next half a mile or so, and it's probably to "prevent" people from just booting it up to the NSL too early.
In general, I'd say there's nothing dangerous about that location - around junctions one would probably want to be judicious in the use of overtaking anyway due to the large amount of boneheads doing sweeping multi-lane dives both onto and off of major dual carriageways on a regular basis.
This camera is (I believe) there because the 50mph speed limit still applies for the next half a mile or so, and it's probably to "prevent" people from just booting it up to the NSL too early.
In general, I'd say there's nothing dangerous about that location - around junctions one would probably want to be judicious in the use of overtaking anyway due to the large amount of boneheads doing sweeping multi-lane dives both onto and off of major dual carriageways on a regular basis.
A426 Warwickshire, Dunchurch - Southam road. There's a camera just to the West of the Stockton x-roads which is just past a slight crest into a downhill right-hander.
If you come over the crest almost airborne and slightly sideways ready for the right-hander, it is impossible to lose enough speed before the camera. Bugger.
If you come over the crest almost airborne and slightly sideways ready for the right-hander, it is impossible to lose enough speed before the camera. Bugger.
littleredrooster said:
A426 Warwickshire, Dunchurch - Southam road. There's a camera just to the West of the Stockton x-roads which is just past a slight crest into a downhill right-hander.
If you come over the crest almost airborne and slightly sideways ready for the right-hander, it is impossible to lose enough speed before the camera. Bugger.
Pity it's sister got toasted. You'd have to be going some to get that out of shape before the remaining one, though.If you come over the crest almost airborne and slightly sideways ready for the right-hander, it is impossible to lose enough speed before the camera. Bugger.
Yes that could be it?
I didn't realise it was at a junction though - I think it was just after some lights.
I had a near incident there on Saturday hence this post and the incident was in my view a combination of the fault of a middle lane hogger and the overtaker (I was doing just under 50 in the inside lane but coming up to the middle lane guy - luckily I had already lifted off as I don't like to undertake ever). The overtaker pushed the middle car into my lane.
But I think it was the speed camera in that situation that created the hazard.
Actually probably unecessarily as there is plenty of 'run off' to do the merge... so yes bad driving but I have noticed people instinctively slam on the anchors when seeing a speed camera... therefore having one where people merge (where they are expecting people to maintain a speed) seems poorly thought out to me?
I'd happily be corrected though.
I didn't realise it was at a junction though - I think it was just after some lights.
I had a near incident there on Saturday hence this post and the incident was in my view a combination of the fault of a middle lane hogger and the overtaker (I was doing just under 50 in the inside lane but coming up to the middle lane guy - luckily I had already lifted off as I don't like to undertake ever). The overtaker pushed the middle car into my lane.
But I think it was the speed camera in that situation that created the hazard.
Actually probably unecessarily as there is plenty of 'run off' to do the merge... so yes bad driving but I have noticed people instinctively slam on the anchors when seeing a speed camera... therefore having one where people merge (where they are expecting people to maintain a speed) seems poorly thought out to me?
I'd happily be corrected though.
masermartin said:
@OP - at the hook interchange, where the A3 and the Kingston Bypass meet?
This camera is (I believe) there because the 50mph speed limit still applies for the next half a mile or so, and it's probably to "prevent" people from just booting it up to the NSL too early.
In general, I'd say there's nothing dangerous about that location - around junctions one would probably want to be judicious in the use of overtaking anyway due to the large amount of boneheads doing sweeping multi-lane dives both onto and off of major dual carriageways on a regular basis.
This camera is (I believe) there because the 50mph speed limit still applies for the next half a mile or so, and it's probably to "prevent" people from just booting it up to the NSL too early.
In general, I'd say there's nothing dangerous about that location - around junctions one would probably want to be judicious in the use of overtaking anyway due to the large amount of boneheads doing sweeping multi-lane dives both onto and off of major dual carriageways on a regular basis.
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