RE: Bowler Defender to debut at CarFest South
RE: Bowler Defender to debut at CarFest South
Friday 23rd August 2013

Bowler Defender to debut at CarFest South

They're going to race them next year, and this is Bowler's road-going car



With Land Rover and Bowler formalising their brand alliance in 2012, we've been eagerly anticipating the first fruits of their official partnership. And here it is, but don't worry; there's far more to this Defender than meets the eye.

Add EXR to Defender and this is the result!
Add EXR to Defender and this is the result!
Details from Bowler weren't exactly comprehensive, but there will be collaboration with Land Rover on a race series for 2014. The car you see here it the "more sanitised" roadgoing equivalent of a Defender racer. Sounds exciting, no?

Ostensibly based on a 90 XS, this Defender has been totally overhauled by Bowler to create something spectacular. A bespoke Bowler suspension kit featuring new springs, dampers, anti-roll bars and bushes is just the start. There's a brake upgrade package, 18-inch Compomotive wheels, a half-cage (with the fold-down seats still usable) and Recaro front chairs.

And that's before we talk performance. Bowler wouldn't release any specific outputs, but the claims are fairly wild. Using the standard engine and recalcitrant gearbox, it now has a Defender reputedly capable of 0-62mph in 7.5 seconds. A standard Defender 90 takes 15.8 seconds. We're told most of the engine work is, unbelievably, just electronic,but will endeavour to add more detail as it's released.

Bowler claims it can still do this too
Bowler claims it can still do this too
Bodywork tweaks over the standard Defender include the lighter bumper and side sills. Those tyres look pretty trick also.

The guys at Bowler made a specific point about their intentions with this car: "We're not adding luxury, we're making a better Defender". To that end, it retains the same off-road and towing capabilities of the standard car. The latter much quicker, presumably

The Bowler Defender will be on display at CarFest South this weekend. Whilst an on-sale date hasn't yet been released (this very car was only finished on Wednesday!), it will be available through Stratstone Land Rover dealers as part of the pair's new agreement. We've been promised a drive ASAP; given what happened with Monkey in an EXR S, that's a hugely tempting prospect.

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jamespink

Original Poster:

1,218 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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At last! A proper modern Defender without the asthmatic engines and shocking suspension/brakes/steering... Didn't take long...

Garlick

40,601 posts

266 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Twisted have been offering a modernised Defender for a while now.

Great to see Bowler getting in on the act too.

TobesH

550 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Same engine is in our 2009 Transit here! It's a 115bhp 3500 LWB and it is quick and smooth. Must be very 'tunable'

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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jamespink said:
At last! A proper modern Defender without the asthmatic engines and shocking suspension/brakes/steering... Didn't take long...
erm no. Go back and read the spec. All they are doing is tweaking the suspension and engine of the current model.

I'm sure it'll be good - a stupid price no doubt, but very good yes

But it is NOT a modern Defender.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

216 months

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TobesH said:
Same engine is in our 2009 Transit here! It's a 115bhp 3500 LWB and it is quick and smooth. Must be very 'tunable'
The Puma motor should be good for a realistic 180bhp. Maybe higher as many "special" edition diesels have been close to 100bhp/litre.

Combine with a quick enough gear change and AWD traction off the line, it's not unreasonable to get a vehicle like this down to 7.5 sec 0-60mph.


Lets not forget a 4.0 Jeep Wrangler (almost identical basic design and dimensions as a Defender) was capable of 8.4 sec 0-60mph 20 years ago. Oddly enough it made around 170bhp.

Jay101

9 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Thought these might have been hiding somewhere at CarFest-North when I saw all the Twisted landies - which also look awesome. Lots of cash though...

paulhope

23 posts

155 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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The main reason for the rather impressive gains in performance are the extensive weight savings given by the lightened bumper and sills. Pwr to weight as ever is the key.....

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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paulhope said:
The main reason for the rather impressive gains in performance are the extensive weight savings given by the lightened bumper and sills. Pwr to weight as ever is the key.....
I'd bet those sills are heavier then the standard sills.

And the standard bumper isn't exacty heavy

Voguely

405 posts

184 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Garlick said:
Twisted have been offering a modernised Defender for a while now.

Great to see Bowler getting in on the act too.
Indeed, and JE Engineering too, they make some pretty mental stuff!

NGK210

4,754 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Is it possible to spec it in bare aluminium (with a layer of clear coat)? If so, yes please.

stripy7

806 posts

213 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
Lets not forget a 4.0 Jeep Wrangler (almost identical basic design and dimensions as a Defender) was capable of 8.4 sec 0-60mph 20 years ago. Oddly enough it made around 170bhp.
Almost identical apart from having a completely different engine and being significantly lighter.

yellowstreak

638 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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I think its a good idea and I like those transit engines, but nothing could make me buy a defender after years of driving army wolfs. The design is just to old, too small and too awkward. Land Rover, bin the defender and design a decent twin cab truck back to break into the massive L200/navarra market.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

216 months

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stripy7 said:
Almost identical apart from having a completely different engine and being significantly lighter.
Pretty similar.

Of course the engine is different... they are different company's.

But they both use quite a similar designed ladder frame chassis. The Defender has a 92.9" wheelbase vs 93.1" for the Wrangler (YJ/TJ).

They use quite similar live axles. The Defender's hailing from a Rover P4 and the Wrangler using Dana axles. Although older 110 Defenders used a "Salisbury" rear axle, which is a copy of a Dana 60 axle, parts are even interchangeable.


Very similar width and length too. In terms of weight:

Wrangler 1451-1525kg according to the web.
Defender/Ninety 1630kg with the old boat anchor Tdi. A Puma engine should weigh less.

DonkeyApple

68,097 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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A good start but I can't help thinking they've missed a trick by not bolting on a rear section that reflects the Bowler lineage. Not exactly difficult.

With the fact that several firms have been making souped up Defenders for a while, with JE's Zulu really being the pinnacle I have to say that I expected a little more from Bowler than this.

GFWilliams

4,947 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Garlick said:
Twisted have been offering a modernised Defender for a while now.

Great to see Bowler getting in on the act too.
Twisted is where I'd be going if I wanted anything doing to a Defender

Lax Power

204 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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My money would go on a Twisted Defender. Tried and tested and I dare say less restricted by not being tied to LR.

7DWM

24 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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yellowstreak said:
I think its a good idea and I like those transit engines, but nothing could make me buy a defender after years of driving army wolfs. The design is just to old, too small and too awkward. Land Rover, bin the defender and design a decent twin cab truck back to break into the massive L200/navarra market.
Agreed! I'm on my third Navara in 7 years, latest one being a V6 which is good but you just know Land Rover will do it so much better!
Disco chassis and engine, what's stopping them?

yellowstreak

638 posts

178 months

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7DWM said:
Agreed! I'm on my third Navara in 7 years, latest one being a V6 which is good but you just know Land Rover will do it so much better!
Disco chassis and engine, what's stopping them?
I just don't know.. it must be because they fear stepping away from the defender size and shape. In my opinion that's what is holding them back.

I would love a rough, tough landrover but with proper difflocks, a modern sized cab where someone 6'4" can sit in comfort, a decent heater and the same engine as your navarra with a gearbox to match. Basically they need to make a G Wagen!

stripy7

806 posts

213 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
Pretty similar.

Of course the engine is different... they are different company's.
You are aware that the 20 year old Wrangler which you originally made the comparison with has a petrol engine?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

216 months

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stripy7 said:
You are aware that the 20 year old Wrangler which you originally made the comparison with has a petrol engine?
Yes. But it was to highlight that a 7.5 sec 0-60mph is fully possible in something Defender 90 sized with the right amount of power and suitable gear change.

Remember the "Defender" or earlier "Ninety" was also fitted with the Rover V8, in 3.5, 3.9 and 4.0 litre guises. There were even a few 2.0MPi petrol ones too.