Does anyone successfully do left foot braking?
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yes, all the time.
It's not just about being able to apply positive drive torque and negative brake torque at the same time, but about not having to delay before braking (takes ~100ms to get your foot off the acc pedal and onto the brake pedal, and it's difficult to do quickly AND with subtlety). It also means the car can be more stable during braking, as you haven't had to deal with the effects of the full negative drive torque before you brake (lift off oversteer anyone?? ;-)
Added to which, so many modern cars are two pedal, and the higher performance ones almost entirely that way now, that it's a very useful skill.
It's not just about being able to apply positive drive torque and negative brake torque at the same time, but about not having to delay before braking (takes ~100ms to get your foot off the acc pedal and onto the brake pedal, and it's difficult to do quickly AND with subtlety). It also means the car can be more stable during braking, as you haven't had to deal with the effects of the full negative drive torque before you brake (lift off oversteer anyone?? ;-)
Added to which, so many modern cars are two pedal, and the higher performance ones almost entirely that way now, that it's a very useful skill.
Always do it, and was lucky enough to be taught it right at the very start of my extensive driver training.
Used it to great effect when doing blue light runs in my days as a Paramedic, and used to get constantly told not to do it as it allowed me to drive significantly faster than anyone else and crew mates didn't like it, despite the fact that the vehicle was always flat and controlled because it was always receiving a positive input.
Then, when I transferred to my current career, once I was comfortable it allowed me to push and test cars as hard as I was expected to.
If used properly, in a car set up for it, such as Ferrari with paddle-shift, nothing will stay with you, it allows you to push far harder, brake much later, and maintain constant control no matter what you're doing with the car.
And I have been asked to demonstrate it on several occasion when people can't figure out how I can do what I do.
The annoying thing is that some manufacturers don't want you to do it, and will programme their products to cut the throttle as soon as you left foot brake, so you have to be careful otherwise no amount of skill will stop you going off.
Feel free to ask questions,
Ruttboy.
Used it to great effect when doing blue light runs in my days as a Paramedic, and used to get constantly told not to do it as it allowed me to drive significantly faster than anyone else and crew mates didn't like it, despite the fact that the vehicle was always flat and controlled because it was always receiving a positive input.
Then, when I transferred to my current career, once I was comfortable it allowed me to push and test cars as hard as I was expected to.
If used properly, in a car set up for it, such as Ferrari with paddle-shift, nothing will stay with you, it allows you to push far harder, brake much later, and maintain constant control no matter what you're doing with the car.
And I have been asked to demonstrate it on several occasion when people can't figure out how I can do what I do.
The annoying thing is that some manufacturers don't want you to do it, and will programme their products to cut the throttle as soon as you left foot brake, so you have to be careful otherwise no amount of skill will stop you going off.
Feel free to ask questions,
Ruttboy.
Edited by ruttboy on Friday 23 August 21:35
Max_Torque said:
yes, all the time.
It's not just about being able to apply positive drive torque and negative brake torque at the same time, but about not having to delay before braking (takes ~100ms to get your foot off the acc pedal and onto the brake pedal, and it's difficult to do quickly AND with subtlety). It also means the car can be more stable during braking, as you haven't had to deal with the effects of the full negative drive torque before you brake (lift off oversteer anyone?? ;-)
Added to which, so many modern cars are two pedal, and the higher performance ones almost entirely that way now, that it's a very useful skill.
What he said It's not just about being able to apply positive drive torque and negative brake torque at the same time, but about not having to delay before braking (takes ~100ms to get your foot off the acc pedal and onto the brake pedal, and it's difficult to do quickly AND with subtlety). It also means the car can be more stable during braking, as you haven't had to deal with the effects of the full negative drive torque before you brake (lift off oversteer anyone?? ;-)
Added to which, so many modern cars are two pedal, and the higher performance ones almost entirely that way now, that it's a very useful skill.
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