Stock M3 CSL V Ferrari

[161BMW]

I just heard a magnificent F430 being given some beans down the A4 London. Not sure whether was full throttle. These Ferraris really do sound great and are well out of budget for some time. Anyway this got me curious I know the M3 CSL sounds good and is a bit cheaper. Is a stock M3 CSL louder than any stock F355, 360 Modena, F430 :-) ?

[DonkeyApple]

You want a Saxo.

[danjama]

DonkeyApple said:

You want a Saxo.

What a strange reply.

[Mastodon2]

161BMW said:

I just heard a magnificent F430 being given some beans down the A4 London. Not sure whether was full throttle. These Ferraris really do sound great and are well out of budget for some time. Anyway this got me curious I know the M3 CSL sounds good and is a bit cheaper. Is a stock M3 CSL louder than any stock F355, 360 Modena, F430 :-) ?

Probably not.

[DanielSan]

Exhaust noise, more than likely not. Induction noise, more than likely yes.

[Welshbeef]

Only way to know for sure is the Db readings.

I have seen a youtube vid of a supercharged CSL and that sounded wonderful.

I have also heard those Ferrari V8's which also sound wonderful spine tingling.

Loudness that's only relevant to those outside of he car. Surely the CSL would be quicker car on a track ?



What you should compare is the Challange Stradale 360 v CSL for noise - no idea which is the best for noise or fun but glad both exist. Real drivers cars.

[161BMW]

360CS is louder than M3 CSL hands down
I have the Autocar issue comparing Car of the Year 2003
M3 CSL V 360CS V 996.2 GT3 etc
In the noise test
1. 360CS
2. M3 CSL
This is for best sound :-)

[Pesty]

doogz said:

Why? It's lighter, but it's significantly less powerful. Impressive car, but the mid engined supercar is going to be quicker absolutely everywhere.

Possibly but I'm not entirely sure.

One of the most impressive cars I've been in was a csl. Left a bit cold from a 360 but the csl driver really was giving it the beans.

[SimianWonder]

doogz said:

Welshbeef said:

What you should compare is the Challange Stradale 360 v CSL for noise - no idea which is the best for noise or fun but glad both exist. Real drivers cars.

Why? It's lighter, but it's significantly less powerful. Impressive car, but the mid engined supercar is going to be quicker absolutely everywhere.

Indeed. An M3 CSL might be eighty or so kilos lighter than a vanilla 430, but it's also 130-ish bhp down on power. In terms of power-to-weight, the F430 would be in a different league.

[Nedzilla]

Its the induction noise on the CSL that makes the music. Stick a Gruppe m back box on it and it will sound utterly fantastic!

[AH33]

I might be in the minority but I have always thought M3's sound very disappointing and tinny in real life (obviously not the v8!)

[gaz1234]

comparing an f430 to a csl? odd.

[Baryonyx]

doogz said:

Why? It's lighter, but it's significantly less powerful. Impressive car, but the mid engined supercar is going to be quicker absolutely everywhere.

I await a reply mentioning 'the real world'.

[markcoznottz]

Welshbeef alert.

[Urban Sports]

Welshbeef said:

Only way to know for sure is the Db readings.

I have seen a youtube vid of a supercharged CSL and that sounded wonderful.

I have also heard those Ferrari V8's which also sound wonderful spine tingling.

Loudness that's only relevant to those outside of he car. Surely the CSL would be quicker car on a track ?



What you should compare is the Challange Stradale 360 v CSL for noise - no idea which is the best for noise or fun but glad both exist. Real drivers cars.

You have no credibility.

[elementad]

I've got a pal with a 430 spyder and believe me it makes the BMW sound like a mouse.
Even tootling round town it sounds huge. The stock 430 exhaust is VERY loud and sounds fantastic.
Quite a few 360 owners buy 430 exhausts and fit them because of the noise it makes.
It doesn't need to be given beans to sound huge - there are more than likely loads of YouTube clips if you search.

[161BMW]

gaz1234 said:

comparing an f430 to a csl? odd.

I was just interested in how he sound compares and which is louder.

[Jasandjules]

161BMW said:

I was just interested in how he sound compares and which is louder.

I am sure they both sound "fun".

But whatever way you cut it, the F430 is the one to have.

[gaz1234]

not you, it was this comment that made me smile:

Surely the CSL would be quicker car on a track ?

[161BMW]

Having listened on You Tube I don't think anything on the wrong side of Ferrari or Lambo can compare to the sound F430 makes ....

Not even Porsche, Jaguar or Maserati let alone CSL ....

http://youtu.be/STQ4YcQjK1Q

http://youtu.be/WolJObI2Oh8

Ferrari F430 V Maserati Gran Turismo
http://youtu.be/pRaccHaMzdA