Is this a good deal for a new Seat Leon FR TDi?
Is this a good deal for a new Seat Leon FR TDi?
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Emeye

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9,781 posts

254 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Hi,

I'm after a car for my new job. I get a car allowance.

Local dealer are offering a brand new 3dr SEAT Leon FR tdi (150bhp) with dynamic pack which is LED running lights, sat nav, bluetooth, DAB etc for £249 deposit £249 a month PCP based on 5000 miles over 36 months.

Obviously I will be doing more miles, and I may adjust the miles to 10k which will be another £20 a month-ish, but I would just buy the car at the end if I do a lot more.

It seems a very good deal, especially considering that it will have a warranty and AA for 3 years. The Leon has had good reviews.

I know I could buy a hundred other secondhand, more PH cars for less, but reliability and economy are very important - I can always buy a weekend fun car.


Cheers.

Howard-

4,964 posts

233 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Seems reasonable, can you please make sure you don't get a white one though? Thanks smile

I might be tempted to look at something like a Honda Civic instead though, if the figures are comparable. I've never been a fan of Seat's fit and finish. The previous Leon is simply woeful inside.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Will the allowance cover this?

http://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/BMW_3_...

Because I know what I'd rather be driving.

Emeye

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9,781 posts

254 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Available colours on this offer for the Leon is red or white or metallic snot green. What's up with a white one?

That BMW is nice, but I don't want a lease as there is no flexibility in it - if something happens, or I hate the car or want something different, there is no way out of a lease - I believe a PCP can be sorted. Also I would be looking at the Personal Contract price inc VAT.

I also believe there is something called Lease Purchase where you have to purchase the car and not hand it back, but there are not many people doing them as far as I can see! Now if I could get the BMW on lease purchase for similar figures

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

189 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Are you really only going to do so few miles?

AGK

1,605 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Sounds pretty reasonable tbh.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Emeye said:
there is no way out of a lease - I believe a PCP can be sorted
The no way out thing is what puts me off leasing. PCP is similar to HP in that you can voluntarily terminate but only when 50% of the total owing is paid off which would include the MGFV.

AGK

1,605 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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chrisw666 said:
The no way out thing is what puts me off leasing. PCP is similar to HP in that you can voluntarily terminate but only when 50% of the total owing is paid off which would include the MGFV.
You can leave a PCP at any point by selling the car and clearing the remaining finance.

By the time you are at 50% on your PCP you will more than likely be at the end of your term anyway.

Emeye

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9,781 posts

254 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Toaster Pilot said:
Are you really only going to do so few miles?
No, it's a new job so no real idea, but I've been told 12-15k miles, maybe more.

I'd rather pay less and then worry about it in 3 years.

Thing is, I keep looking at £7/8k Golf GTis with 50k miles on the clock, and BMW 120d Coupes around £10kish.

My head is hurting.

JackReacher

2,291 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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The new Leon is a good car, and the interior is certainly a step up from the last one (which it needed to be). I drove the 150bhp FR and 1.2T SE petrol, and was impressed by both.

I'm considering the diesel for next company car, but it will do 20k miles a year. If you're only doing 10-12k then buy something secondhand, will save you quite a bit of money even if you pay slightly more in fuel.

va1o

16,118 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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I've tried the 1.4 TSI 140 in the new Leon FR and it was a brilliant drive. Really nice car. I've currently got a Mk2 and it definitely felt a step up although its lost a few design features like the hidden rear door handles.

Technology Pack is currently free so you get Nav, DAB and full LED headlights included on top of the already generous FR spec. Red is currently the free colour, it was previously White but changed recently. Go for the SC if you don't mind the slight impracticality as they are cheaper and look nicer.

On PCP you don't need to worry too much about mileage limits because you can always pay off the remaining balance and then sell the car privately/ trade it in. Its only if you hand it back to the finance company that the limit and associated penalties kick in.

Emeye

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9,781 posts

254 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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I test drove a Leon 2.0 se tdi after work. It was very nice, but thanks to rush hour traffic we didn't get much over 40mpg. The tech is very impressive.

The cars available all have over £1k of options so the price is pushed up a bit. I quite fancy one that has a sunroof, SEAT sound upgrade and comfort pack though.

Still not sure about spending so much money.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Can you find a short 6, 9 or 12 month lease? Less commitment and you'll have a better idea of mileage rather than commiting for 3 years based on a few unknowns and a job you may fall out with.

Emeye

Original Poster:

9,781 posts

254 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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I test drove a Leon 2.0 se tdi after work. It was very nice, but thanks to rush hour traffic we didn't get much over 40mpg. The tech is very impressive.

The cars available all have over £1k of options so the price is pushed up a bit. I quite fancy one that has a sunroof, SEAT sound upgrade and comfort pack though.

Still not sure about spending so much money.

talksthetorque

10,821 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Buy something/keep what you've got to run around in for starters (unless you have a monaro or something equally sillywell chosen for before you got the job.
I was told 30k miles pa, by three different people already in the job, 11.5 months down the line, just heading up to 41k.

Racking up the hotel bills now, to keep the mileage down - and of course to get bought steak every night on expenses wink
Also check the overmileage allowance. For my car its 10.8p per mile, (I'm leasing) but on the Leon FR (last of the old shapes) it was 18p per mile +vat!!
when you get paid 14p per mile fuel allowance, it ends up costing you to go to work frown



Emeye

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9,781 posts

254 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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I have thought about keeping my 2000 plate merc 230k sport that cost me £946 just over a year ago and pretty much cost nothing since other than the dreadful urban mpg. Thing is I've only just been doing 5k miles a years. It feels amazingly solid with 108k on the clock and everything works including the aircon etc, but it has a few issues. Hesitant on startup from cold first thing in morning (maf?), stinks of petrol if I fill it up to full, wing mirror covers discreetly held on with tape. :Hehe: Needs a wheel bearing and a service. Some small patches of rust. Fine for my 7 mile each way commute, but I'm not too sure how it will cope with doing over a thousands miles a month!

I could throw a few hundred at it, (andfull AAcover) but even then it will not be worth much more that the £300 part ex I was offered for it, and it could still go pop on my way to an important meeting with a customer!