Both drivers as bad as each other in this clip?
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Just updated the iPad YouTube app and jumped to the Cars and Vehicles section and this is top.
Both are professional drivers. Bus just tries to enforce his 'priority' due to driving a bus (Highway Code-223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road).
Plus police driver doesn't want to give in. (Could possibly be tailing someone).
To me the bus driver should not have pulled across both lanes. Although the bus stop isn't well spaced for getting across ready for that set of lights, the police car should have just tucked in behind him.
http://youtu.be/ZCc2KQPSKXU
And yes, I can't sleep.....
Both are professional drivers. Bus just tries to enforce his 'priority' due to driving a bus (Highway Code-223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road).
Plus police driver doesn't want to give in. (Could possibly be tailing someone).
To me the bus driver should not have pulled across both lanes. Although the bus stop isn't well spaced for getting across ready for that set of lights, the police car should have just tucked in behind him.
http://youtu.be/ZCc2KQPSKXU
And yes, I can't sleep.....
Edited by Birdster on Thursday 29th August 01:10
I'm astonished at that police car tbh. Just driving into head on traffic like that with seemingly no blues on and at night, when it's 'busy' with lots going on to very other road user, to suddenly just drive into oncoming traffic truly beggars belief. An MOP would be ending up with a dwdca or carless or even dangerous driving summons for that IMO.
The bus is forceful, yes, but that's London busses. That police driver should have stopped in his lane, then blued the bus from behind to have a word IMO.
The bus is forceful, yes, but that's London busses. That police driver should have stopped in his lane, then blued the bus from behind to have a word IMO.
The bus driver should have given way, I reckon. I know what the Highway Code says about letting them out, though. Round here, buses tend to give way to police cars and ambulances but will happily squeeze Joe Public into a tight spot, even if Joe was alongside the bus before the driver flicked his indicator on. I suppose the drivers here tend to appreciate that the police and ambulance drivers are probably going to something of more importance than the need for the bus driver to shave five seconds off his journey time. As I say though, they will think nothing of cutting you or I up to make their route.
I can think of a road near where I work, where the traffic splits into three lanes (two East, one West). Buses clog the road up heading in both directions, and stop to let each other out with no regard for other traffic. They'll stop two abreast to collect passengers, or hold back from the lights allow a bus in Lane 1 to nip across to Lane 2 where Lane 1 becomes left turn only. Total chaos, of course.
I can think of a road near where I work, where the traffic splits into three lanes (two East, one West). Buses clog the road up heading in both directions, and stop to let each other out with no regard for other traffic. They'll stop two abreast to collect passengers, or hold back from the lights allow a bus in Lane 1 to nip across to Lane 2 where Lane 1 becomes left turn only. Total chaos, of course.
If you look, the bus driver didn't actually have his indicator on until nearly in the police officers lane side by side with him. As the police officer you wouldn't expect an un-indicating bus to do that IMO, so mr police continued as normal. However, then the bus put his indicator on and tried to force himself into this gap, probably due to needing to be in the right hand lane to turn right. So when the police officer saw the bus wasn't going to give way, I think he should of given way, even though I believe he wasn't in the wrong at this point - although maybe some good forward planning should of seen him slow down a bit. Then the police officer went onto the other side of the road infront of a blind bend at night without his blues on. Personally I think that is much worse than what the bus driver did.
The bus driver forced his way in, which obviously isn't good but considering his right turning situation is slightly acceptable, the police officer on the other hand made an iffy situation a dangerous situation.
Just my 3 cents.
The bus driver forced his way in, which obviously isn't good but considering his right turning situation is slightly acceptable, the police officer on the other hand made an iffy situation a dangerous situation.
Just my 3 cents.
MrB1obby said:
If you look, the bus driver didn't actually have his indicator on until nearly in the police officers lane side by side with him. As the police officer you wouldn't expect an un-indicating bus to do that IMO, so mr police continued as normal. However, then the bus put his indicator on and tried to force himself into this gap, probably due to needing to be in the right hand lane to turn right. So when the police officer saw the bus wasn't going to give way, I think he should of given way, even though I believe he wasn't in the wrong at this point - although maybe some good forward planning should of seen him slow down a bit. Then the police officer went onto the other side of the road infront of a blind bend at night without his blues on. Personally I think that is much worse than what the bus driver did.
The bus driver forced his way in, which obviously isn't good but considering his right turning situation is slightly acceptable, the police officer on the other hand made an iffy situation a dangerous situation.
Just my 3 cents.
Eh, you can see the indicator from the very beginning.The bus driver forced his way in, which obviously isn't good but considering his right turning situation is slightly acceptable, the police officer on the other hand made an iffy situation a dangerous situation.
Just my 3 cents.
Hint: What else has an indicator that's two stories tall in the distance at the start of the video?
s3fella said:
I'm astonished at that police car tbh. Just driving into head on traffic like that with seemingly no blues on and at night, when it's 'busy' with lots going on to very other road user, to suddenly just drive into oncoming traffic truly beggars belief. An MOP would be ending up with a dwdca or carless or even dangerous driving summons for that IMO.
The bus is forceful, yes, but that's London busses. That police driver should have stopped in his lane, then blued the bus from behind to have a word IMO.
Agree with this, dreadful road manners by both drivers.The bus is forceful, yes, but that's London busses. That police driver should have stopped in his lane, then blued the bus from behind to have a word IMO.
krunchkin said:
There's a daily situation like this on the Marylebone road, just past Baker St heading west. Buses pull out from a stop and attempt to drag directly across 3 lanes of traffic to take a right turn. It inevitably results in stupidity and mayhem all round.
How have you observed it being resolved?I know it and live very nearby but have yet to be involved.
kedaha said:
Eh, you can see the indicator from the very beginning.
Hint: What else has an indicator that's two stories tall in the distance at the start of the video?
A few blinks prior to pulling off, then it goes off. Stars again much, much later.Hint: What else has an indicator that's two stories tall in the distance at the start of the video?
I thought he was doing the bus driver trick of pulling out across two lanes so no-one can pass.
Happens all the time near me. Bus lane and normal lane in parallel at the lights, then after the lights a good 200m before the lanes merge into one (although its not marked). The number of buses that pull across both lanes, just so no-one can pass is ridiculous.
Bus gripe no. 2: buses that sit at the stop indicating right when people are still getting on and off so no-one passes them.
Bus gripe no. 3: Buses that stop so far from the kerb that cyclists go up the left hand side until the doors open and people start to get off. Deserve each other!
In this instance the police car should have backed off. Perhaps he was checking to see if the bus driver would actually use his mirror though.
kedaha said:
Eh, you can see the indicator from the very beginning.
Hint: What else has an indicator that's two stories tall in the distance at the start of the video?
Hint: what turns his indicator off as he leaves the actual stop, then back on again whilst continuing the same manouvre, the driver must have done it as he hasnt changed direction in order to cancel the indicator. Hint: What else has an indicator that's two stories tall in the distance at the start of the video?
Poor show by the bus driver, bet he turned it back on again to cover his ass as he knew he was cutting across lanes.
oh, and for those who think he did nothing wrong because he didnt get pulled you can see him in conversation with the officer/officers in the car and I imagine the last thing the police wanted to do was stop and block a lane in that heavy traffic, a b
king would have been enough. 
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