Police escort - coaches - A55/A51 today. What was it?
Police escort - coaches - A55/A51 today. What was it?
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mrtwisty

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3,057 posts

196 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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On tbe way to Conwy from the Midlands today, just seen a convoy of maybe ten coaches escorted by quite a few police motorcycle outriders, cars & 4x4's. Anyone else seen it or have any idea what it was? They were heading eastbound with quite a queue of traffic behind.

Benbay001

5,895 posts

188 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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mrtwisty said:
On tbe way to Conwy from the Midlands today, just seen a convoy of maybe ten coaches escorted by quite a few police motorcycle outriders, cars & 4x4's. Anyone else seen it or have any idea what it was? They were heading eastbound with quite a queue of traffic behind.
The MPs that voted "yes" being taken to the loony camp.

Impasse

15,099 posts

272 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Football hooligans enthusiasts.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Impasse said:
Football hooligans enthusiasts.
My guess. Happens every other weekend around here.

steebo888

784 posts

229 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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B17NNS said:
My guess. Happens every other weekend around here.
this

seen it in doncaster and huddersfield on match days for away fan coaches

zed4

7,248 posts

253 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Impasse said:
Football hooligans enthusiasts.
I saw that in Southampton once. Couldn't believe it! What a waste of police resources. In F1 fans of all teams and drivers all sit together in the same grandstands, enjoy banter and have a great time together. In football fans have to be bussed in with police escorts and sit at opposite ends of the pitch so they don't kill each other like uncivilised animals.

fking hate football.

eltax91

10,787 posts

237 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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zed4 said:
I saw that in Southampton once. Couldn't believe it! What a waste of police resources. In F1 fans of all teams and drivers all sit together in the same grandstands, enjoy banter and have a great time together. In football fans have to be bussed in with police escorts and sit at opposite ends of the pitch so they don't kill each other like uncivilised animals.

fking hate football.
A very narrow minded opinion. Football is a family sport for most. As usual it's the select few that ruin it for everyone and tarnish all fans. I'm currently sat on the terraces of my teams ground, am 30 years old and have been a season ticket holder since the age of 6! A thoroughly family affair. I can honestly say I've seen a handful of problems in that 20+ years

Not really a waste of police resources when you think the clubs are forced to pay for ALL match day policing resource, I'd wager the police make a little surplus for the coffers too. wink

Bridgewaterfalls

171 posts

194 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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That was football bubble policing for the "notorious" away fans of non-league Chester City, playing Wrexham today.

I passed the convoy, returning from camping in Bala. I couldn't believe it, I thought the local prison was having a trip to the seaside in Rhyl at first!


MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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zed4 said:
Impasse said:
Football hooligans enthusiasts.
I saw that in Southampton once. Couldn't believe it! What a waste of police resources. In F1 fans of all teams and drivers all sit together in the same grandstands, enjoy banter and have a great time together. In football fans have to be bussed in with police escorts and sit at opposite ends of the pitch so they don't kill each other like uncivilised animals.

fking hate football.
It's the police that insist on being there, not that their presence is necessary to prevent trouble. And they make the clubs pay for the policing.

Nice bit of overtime for them with no real risk of having to do any work.

zed4

7,248 posts

253 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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eltax91 said:
zed4 said:
I saw that in Southampton once. Couldn't believe it! What a waste of police resources. In F1 fans of all teams and drivers all sit together in the same grandstands, enjoy banter and have a great time together. In football fans have to be bussed in with police escorts and sit at opposite ends of the pitch so they don't kill each other like uncivilised animals.

fking hate football.
A very narrow minded opinion. Football is a family sport for most. As usual it's the select few that ruin it for everyone and tarnish all fans. I'm currently sat on the terraces of my teams ground, am 30 years old and have been a season ticket holder since the age of 6! A thoroughly family affair. I can honestly say I've seen a handful of problems in that 20+ years

Not really a waste of police resources when you think the clubs are forced to pay for ALL match day policing resource, I'd wager the police make a little surplus for the coffers too. wink
No idea how it works TBH, I'm sure football clubs can afford to pay for the police.

Having lived in Southampton city centre for a while, it kind of put me off football and everything to do with it. Yobs fighting with Portsmouth supporters, just all seemed a bit childish to me.

I used to play for Swindon Town Juniors when I was younger too!

xRIEx

8,180 posts

179 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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MarshPhantom said:
Nice bit of overtime for them with no real risk of having to do any work.
Of course, it's all completely peaceful and good-natured. Football fans, those little scamps.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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xRIEx said:
Of course, it's all completely peaceful and good-natured. Football fans, those little scamps.
Yes, I'm sure it can get lively.

mrtwisty

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3,057 posts

196 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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All that for a few football fans?!? I've never been to a football match (can't say I ever will either) - what the hell goes on that necessitates that kind of police presence? I thought the really hardcore football hooligan stuff ended in the eighties or early nineties?

MoelyCrio

2,502 posts

213 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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There were helicopters overhead too. Complete lock down for a Chester vs Wrexham!

PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

196 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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zed4 said:
I saw that in Southampton once. Couldn't believe it! What a waste of police resources. In F1 fans of all teams and drivers all sit together in the same grandstands, enjoy banter and have a great time together. In football fans have to be bussed in with police escorts and sit at opposite ends of the pitch so they don't kill each other like uncivilised animals.

fking hate football.
+1

Never been and never I will. Rugby lads drink twice the amount and seem to be civilised.

F'kin animals mostly - and that's the players. However, I'd kick a bag of air about for over 100k per week.

Driving trucks pays circa 30k.....

Dave 500

7,886 posts

273 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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PIGINAWIG said:
+1

Never been and never I will. Rugby lads drink twice the amount and seem to be civilised.

F'kin animals mostly - and that's the players. However, I'd kick a bag of air about for over 100k per week.

Driving trucks pays circa 30k.....
Holy Crap 30K a week for driving a truck... are you moving nukes around.

Chalk

112 posts

176 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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zed4 said:
fking hate football.
Gay!

Daston

6,154 posts

234 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Chalk said:
Gay!
Well there is a pitch of 22 men not wearing much doing a lot of crying, kissing, hugging and arse slapping...

ImpossiblyDaft

399 posts

212 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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mrtwisty said:
All that for a few football fans?!? I've never been to a football match (can't say I ever will either) - what the hell goes on that necessitates that kind of police presence? I thought the really hardcore football hooligan stuff ended in the eighties or early nineties?
They'll categorise the various games based on risk & try and weight the amount of police presence appropriately - but it often ends up as overkill on low & medium priority ones "just in case". Realistically, on those it's a huge operation to stop two or three drunks having a fight; go into any town centre on a Saturday night and you'll see worse.

On higher risk ones they don't leave anything to chance & throw every toy they've got at it, which is generally fair enough but sometimes gets a bit ridiculous with some of the dispersal powers.

As to the comment about Southampton, I can imagine the difficulty of dealing with games against Portsmouth colours their viewpoint for everything else - I went to a really low-risk game there once and the police presence was really quite unpleasant and crazily OTT given it was at most 1/3rd full and hardly some sort of high-risk game.
They had sniffer dogs, searches and metal detectors at all the train station exits, trying to search as many people as they possibly could. The usual sort of pointless angry attitude and there was one of the weirdest things after -
Three teenagers, clearly friends, one wearing the away team football shirt and two wearing Southampton ones were standing on the train station platform afterwards. They're all waiting for the same train to London. Policeman comes over, tries to separate them as if they were fighting and forces the one guy who was wearing the different top to go onto the platform for the train to that city - he kept politely trying to explain and show his ticket to the policeman but just kept getting yelled at and this guy was really throwing his weight around. It was nuts.