New Picasso design fault?

[doopercoupe]

Watched the review of the new Picasso on You Tube today. What happens if you stop on a dark road and then open the tailgate? The rear light clusters are built into the tailgate.... no hazard lights in view. Looks like an accident waiting to happen. Shame cos the car looks good.

[TheHeretic]

Are there lights on the tailgate itself that come on as it opens?

[Codswallop]

The Vauxhall Insignia estate also has lights that go up with the tailgate. That has additional rear lights built into the boot to help solve visibility issues.



They can show the brake lights and indicators.

Maybe the Citroen has something similar.

[Burrito]

I'd recommend keeping the boot shut then! But if you can't, you could keep one of these in your glove box which I have as an extra precaution after sitting with an irreparable puncture (tyre weld was useless) a couple of years back on an unlit A road. Even with the E46's impressive LED indicators I felt pretty exposed.

[okie592]

[RocketScience]

This is the "Is my people carrier safe" thread that Mumsnet has been waiting for!

[tbc]

As far as i'm concerned every bloody Citroen is a design fault in itself

why anyone even considers them as a decent car choice if they can read and think is beyond belief

[doopercoupe]

Maybe the fog lights have built in indicator/hazard lights, even then they will be too low. A major omission from a big player.

[AmitG]

Interesting...I thought it was a legal (EU type approval) requirement that the rear lights remain visible when the tailgate is open. Hence the Insignia estate design with the secondary light clusters. I am sure there must be an answer, Citroen surely cannot have overlooked something as major as that.

[joebongo]

AmitG said:

Interesting...I thought it was a legal (EU type approval) requirement that the rear lights remain visible when the tailgate is open. Hence the Insignia estate design with the secondary light clusters. I am sure there must be an answer, Citroen surely cannot have overlooked something as major as that.

Same here. That's why there are a lot of 4x4s with two sets of backlights, most of which don't light the higher set as it would be non-compliant in the EUSSR.

[OwenK]

I too understood it to be an EU requirement.

Based on that picture above, I wouldn't be surprised if those little lights in the bumper swapped over to act as brake/tail/indicator while the tailgate is open.

[blueg33]

tbc said:

As far as i'm concerned every bloody Citroen is a design fault in itself

why anyone even considers them as a decent car choice if they can read and think is beyond belief

Some Citroens are great. SM springs to mind. Its a design icon.

[egor110]

tbc said:

As far as i'm concerned every bloody Citroen is a design fault in itself

why anyone even considers them as a decent car choice if they can read and think is beyond belief

They have ride comfort spot on for the st uk roads.

[TheTurbonator]

tbc said:

As far as i'm concerned every bloody Citroen is a design fault in itself

why anyone even considers them as a decent car choice if they can read and think is beyond belief

The grand picasso we have, has been the perfect family work horse. Not fast nor a good b-road handler, but for getting the kids and all the ste, the wife insists on taking with us, comfortably and reliably to a-b, it's been faultless. Even when the 3 year old insists on climbing through the boot and jumping his way to the front seat in his muddy boots, nothing has fallen off. Citroen seem to have made all the bits that will inevitable get trodden on, very secure and well made.

Father in law also had a C4 for 5 years, that too never had a single fault.

So despite all the horror stories, they do sometimes get it right, and recent reliability surveys place some french cars higher than some of the ones from the German marques.

P.S. When someone else has taken the deprciation hit, I'll be looking at one of these new picasso's with great interest.