Hatchbacks with flat floors
Hatchbacks with flat floors
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nicanary

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11,393 posts

177 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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I'll be changing my car soon, and recent job developments mean I need a car with a good size rear load area with a perfectly flat floor. I don't really need an estate, and I usually buy medium-sized hatchbacks in the Focus/Astra/Golf sector. My present Golf (please don't yawn- it's the residuals) has a rear seat squab which just folds down onto the rear seat cushion, and lies at an angle of about 10/15 degrees, which is 10/15 degrees too much. The load I carry MUST stand upright.

I can't be a**ed to go round every showroom to check on each car - PH members seem to know every inch of every model on the market.I found an old thread on the search machine which recommended the Jazz, but the poster had limited funds - I can go to about £13k so there's a chance I can get something about 1 year old. Any thoughts ? (Please bear in mind this is for business use, 30k a year on mixed urban/country routes, so nothing silly with high insurance/high fuel consumption). Do all hatchbacks have rear seat arrangements like the Golf?

(PS I've been considering estates - Exeo and Passat, but the latter must be the most boring car on the road. I really don't need something that big, though).

Shaw Tarse

31,903 posts

234 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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A later Honda Jazz?

nicanary

Original Poster:

11,393 posts

177 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Shaw Tarse said:
A later Honda Jazz?
Good point. I have driven one as a loaner, and couldn't see what the fuss was all about (and this from a man who drives a Golf!). It was OK I s'pose, for a city car, but much of my mileage is on twisting country roads, and I'd rather have a traditional "Focus class" car, IF one is made which fits my needs.

JonnyVTEC

3,263 posts

206 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Civic or Jazz and you can fold the row2 seat bench up aswell as folding very flat. Magic seats in them are clever!

rossub

6,059 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Sounds like you need a diesel Civic to me.

southpaw

5,999 posts

256 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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The rear seat base in my Focus (last shape, not the new one) lifts up, and the rear 'upper' folds down into that space, making a flat floor, but I'm not sure if this is a standard feature or just because it has Recaros as it's an ST.

Deerfoot

5,257 posts

215 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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JonnyVTEC said:
Civic
This.

JonnyVTEC

3,263 posts

206 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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C segment like a Golf or Focus will be the Civic rather than the B segment Jazz.

Civic fuel tank is under the front seats! Hence the space.

nicanary

Original Poster:

11,393 posts

177 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Thanks folks. The Focus sounds interesting, because that's how an estate car's seats fold down, and you get a flat floor. I drove a Focus for a week recently - the driving position was good, but I thought the diesel was a bit noisy.

The Civic, now there's a thought. I ran an Accord Sport for 3 years, and it was built like a tank. The 2.2 diesel is really creamy, and I reckon the smaller Civic would go well with that big motor. They do a new 1.6 engine now, but it'll probably be a bit pricey for me.

At least now I know that there are cars out there for consideration.

stug45

98 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Civic or jazz.

Civic 1.6 diesel if new or a 2.2....

Jazz 1.4. Could easily get two jazz's for 13k. Can buy nearly new jazz for 9/10k.

Don't think any other cars have flat floors in.
A van?

kambites

71,681 posts

252 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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I think all the "sandwich floor" Mercs have flat-folding rear seats. Not the best of things to drive, mind.

nicanary

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11,393 posts

177 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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stug45 said:
Civic or jazz.

Civic 1.6 diesel if new or a 2.2....

Jazz 1.4. Could easily get two jazz's for 13k. Can buy nearly new jazz for 9/10k.

Don't think any other cars have flat floors in.
A van?


Van ? Well the Berlingo came to mind, but I think I'd rather have my eyes gouged out. BTW I'm 63, so if I got a Jazz I might as well get a pipe and some tartan slippers whilst I was at it. But it's got to come into the reckoning, if thread comments are regarded properly. Does the Jazz come in beige?

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

264 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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JonnyVTEC said:
C segment like a Golf or Focus will be the Civic rather than the B segment Jazz.

Civic fuel tank is under the front seats! Hence the space.
As is the one in the Jazz wink ; if only ARG had adopted the Jazz as the City Rover it could have been all so different (that ship had sailed frown )... With the maximised & flat-floored square loading area and wide-open hatchback opening, it comes near Issigonis' aims for maximum interior space from minimum exterior dimensions, surely?? confused

That I can't 'place' our Jazz on the road (and in parking spaces) and prefer my '80s tin, to drive and look out of, speaks for itself - but so does 50mpg economy from our 1.2 (and the good-sized flat-floored extended boot in the Jazz wink ) scratchchin ...

Court Jester

182 posts

209 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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My wife has the previous shape Civic. It has the magic seats, so flat floor or you can fold the seat up and get a decent flat boot across the car.

Decent economy and after 7 years and 90k miles is still virtually bomb proof.

Assume new shape is the same.

HTH

Axionknight

8,505 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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2.2 diesel Civic for you Sir, a good bit of straight line poke, a massive boot, decent economy - can't go too far wrong I'd say! I know - I crashed one! biggrin

moreflaps

746 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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What is the point of needing to be completely flat when you accelerate, brake and go around corners?
scratchchin
Cheers

moreflaps

746 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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What is the point of needing to be completely flat when you accelerate, brake and go around corners?
scratchchin
Cheers

Axionknight

8,505 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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moreflaps said:
What is the point of needing to be completely flat when you accelerate, brake and go around corners?
scratchchin
Cheers
Maybe he will be strapping the load into place, and required the largest possible surface area to do so.

morgrp

4,128 posts

229 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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An Audi A2 practically turns into a van with the (easily removed) rear seats taken out - down side? They stopped making them in 2005.


This is a pic of the rear with the seats folded - they do remove completely for a bigger load space.

Great piece of packaging the A2 - boot actually has a larger volume than the bigger Audi A3


morgrp

4,128 posts

229 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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An Audi A2 practically turns into a van with the (easily removed) rear seats taken out - down side? They stopped making them in 2005.


This is a pic of the rear with the seats folded - they do remove completely for a bigger load space.

Great piece of packaging the A2 - boot actually has a larger volume than the bigger Audi A3