What would you do?
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brianb

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447 posts

167 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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The new roll I'm starting soon comes with a couple of options regarding company transport

First option is a fully maintained company car with a fuel card (basic fiesta/corsa style options)

2nd option is a £4000pa allowance plus 45p per mile ect, use this to buy a few year old corsa for around £4.5k and pocket the extra over the following years (which would come in handy)

3rd option is use the above allowance and buy something I actually want to drive/own, I'm thinking £15k over 4yrs finance would get me a nice 10 plate 250 megane cup

The only stipulation is that the car must be under 7yrs old

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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brianb said:
The new roll I'm starting soon comes with a couple of onions
hehe

Pathetically childish, but I couldn't resist hehe

hyperblue

2,914 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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Is the £4k allowance gross or net? It won't go as far as you think if that's gross!

Matt UK

18,084 posts

231 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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If the maths work, I'm always a fan of driving something cheaper than I could (without going to poverty extremes) and using the extra to fund a nice weekend to tuck up in the garage.

CallorFold

860 posts

164 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I'd take option 2 smile

Buy something around the 4-5k mark - which should give a good scope of cars up to 7 years old

Get something reasonably economical - 35-40mpg on a run, and that 45p per mile fuel allowance will go a long way depending on the number of miles you're doing!

Kentish

15,169 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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  1. 2
smile

Kentish

15,169 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Kentish said:
1. 2

smile
eh???

I typed # 2!

Engineer1

10,486 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Check the rules of the scheme I suspect there will be restrictions specially if you are likely to go anywhere near a customer or supplier in your vehicle.

KTF

10,717 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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How many miles are you planning to do per year in the car?

brianb

Original Poster:

447 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Mileage will be around 20k (business)

I'm really torn between something that can be used as a play thing and company car, I've noticed the new Astra is available and very cheap as a company car

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
brianb said:
The new roll I'm starting soon comes with a couple of onions
hehe

Pathetically childish, but I couldn't resist hehe
haha clap

andyalan10

536 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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That 45 ppm will only be tax free for the first 10,000 miles per annum. Or, more likely the rate your company pays will drop after that distance.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/payerti/exb/a-z/m/mileage-e...

If that is 20k business miles plus whatever private mileage you do then that is a lot of time to be sitting in a fairly small car, also it will have a major effect on resale/contract hire payments on a brand new vehicle. If you look at 2-3 year old cars you'll find very small differences in prices between Fiesta/Focus/Mondeo for example because everyone wants a nice small second hand car for the wife/child/grandparents and nobody wants a medium size car.

I never regretted going down the car allowance route, free choice of car, new or second hand (within reason) and no-one to answer to when I road rallied it.

Perhaps the best deal was an 18 month old Audi A4 Avant 1.8T, £7k down on what the previous owner paid Audi for the ex-demonstrator, and £12 down on new list price.

Andy

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

263 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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hyperblue said:
Is the £4k allowance gross or net? It won't go as far as you think if that's gross!
It would, because you would aslo take into account the savings he made on not paying company car tax + fuel. Quite often they will be more than the tax to consider on the £4k car allowance.

OP-How many miles per year will you do?

zcacogp

11,239 posts

275 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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brianb said:
The only stipulation is that the car must be under 7yrs old
Depending upon the company, it's worth asking how flexible that rule is. I had a similar situation with a company I worked for about 6 years ago and mentioned to my boss that I was thinking of buying an old 944 but it would be a LOT older than the 5-years-old rule they had. He started to pay some careful attention and said that if it was a nice example and I kept it looking good and running reliably then they would be quite happy to waive the rule. They took the view that a good-looking older 'posh' car (their words) was no bad thing for an employee to be seen in.

It was all helped by the fact that it was a small company (40-ish people) and the directors were petrolheads.


Oli.

grayze

790 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Option 1 - pay tax on the company car based on its emissions and list price value including all options, fuel tax charges are based on 21K * emissions % * tax rate.

use the car tax calculator here

http://comcar.co.uk/newcar/companycar/taxcalc/g1se...

and the fuel tax calculator here:

http://comcar.co.uk/fuel/benefit/

Your tax liability will be around £1150PA so £95 per month based on taxable value of £14,400 and CO2 emissions of 129g/km

Option 2 - £4000 pa is usually added to your salary so divide by 12 and taxed at 20% its £250 per month in your back pocket plus NO car tax so around £ 350 better off than the company car option and you can drive what you want/afford BUT you pay for tyres, servicing, depreciation, fuel etc...

EFA plus you get the allowance for fuel but do your own research.


BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

242 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Bearing in mind the fuel card, I'd have a long hard think about 1 vs 2 but probably not 3 - save now and spend later.