What car like a 106 Rallye, but cheaper/more available?
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A Saxo VTS/106GTI will provide 95% of the thrills but are available relatively cheaply.
The VTR has decent suspension, but the engine/gearbox conspire to make it fairly uninspiring compared to a Rallye or the above (not enough revs from the engine, long gear ratios thanks to a weird final drive).
The VTR has decent suspension, but the engine/gearbox conspire to make it fairly uninspiring compared to a Rallye or the above (not enough revs from the engine, long gear ratios thanks to a weird final drive).
Krikkit said:
A Saxo VTS/106GTI will provide 95% of the thrills but are available relatively cheaply.
The VTR has decent suspension, but the engine/gearbox conspire to make it fairly uninspiring compared to a Rallye or the above (not enough revs from the engine, long gear ratios thanks to a weird final drive).
106 GTi provide 95% of the thrill? I beg to differ, I've had my 106 GTi for seven years and find it more thrilling than any rallye.The VTR has decent suspension, but the engine/gearbox conspire to make it fairly uninspiring compared to a Rallye or the above (not enough revs from the engine, long gear ratios thanks to a weird final drive).
Freddy88FM said:
Krikkit said:
A Saxo VTS/106GTI will provide 95% of the thrills but are available relatively cheaply.
The VTR has decent suspension, but the engine/gearbox conspire to make it fairly uninspiring compared to a Rallye or the above (not enough revs from the engine, long gear ratios thanks to a weird final drive).
106 GTi provide 95% of the thrill? I beg to differ, I've had my 106 GTi for seven years and find it more thrilling than any rallye.The VTR has decent suspension, but the engine/gearbox conspire to make it fairly uninspiring compared to a Rallye or the above (not enough revs from the engine, long gear ratios thanks to a weird final drive).
MC Bodge said:
The 106 Rallye has a good following on here, but are fairly scarce and expensive.
What other car (other than a lesser 106/Saxo) would provide a similar experience for less?
I'm assuming that a Saxo VTR might be similar?
106 GTI?What other car (other than a lesser 106/Saxo) would provide a similar experience for less?
I'm assuming that a Saxo VTR might be similar?
A Metro GTa or GTI is quite fun, although maybe not as raw as a Rallye. But quite a few Metro's seem to have ended up with 1.8 or VVC motors in them.
Puma wouldn't be a bad alternative to a 106, although somewhat different.
Good suggestion!Krikkit said:
Really? I find the extra weight and longer final drive make for a slightly less exciting steer, even if there's more power.
The Rallye just doesn't have the guts for me. It's, what 50kg lighter(?), but I really don't think the weight saving improves the handling enough for the power drop personally. The longer final drive I'll agree is not as good, however it's a million times more usable. If you're going to have a car with a shorter final drive than the GTi and plan to go on a motorway any time soon... good luck!As I said, I've had the GTi for seven years and won't be selling it. The Rallye wasn't the same.
If rust hasn't yet got the better of them all then I can highly recommend a Suzuki Swift GTI. Them things were ridiculous up to about 100mph. I thoroughly enjoyed mine, albeit 12ish years ago now.
Or alternatively, a CRX VTEC? The model before it got the convertible roof. I remember coming close to buying one of them in 2004. The then owner took me for a test drive in it. This one was the import only SiR version and my god did it shift! Scared the crap out of me tearing it in and around Porthmadog. I had to make a choice between repairing a Cat D Corrado that I'd already bought or selling that on as it was and buying the CRX. I regretfully opted for the Corrado, which was reasonable (2.0 16v) but that CRX left a lasting impression on me.
Or alternatively, a CRX VTEC? The model before it got the convertible roof. I remember coming close to buying one of them in 2004. The then owner took me for a test drive in it. This one was the import only SiR version and my god did it shift! Scared the crap out of me tearing it in and around Porthmadog. I had to make a choice between repairing a Cat D Corrado that I'd already bought or selling that on as it was and buying the CRX. I regretfully opted for the Corrado, which was reasonable (2.0 16v) but that CRX left a lasting impression on me.
Freddy88FM said:
Krikkit said:
Really? I find the extra weight and longer final drive make for a slightly less exciting steer, even if there's more power.
The Rallye just doesn't have the guts for me. It's, what 50kg lighter(?), but I really don't think the weight saving improves the handling enough for the power drop personally. The longer final drive I'll agree is not as good, however it's a million times more usable. If you're going to have a car with a shorter final drive than the GTi and plan to go on a motorway any time soon... good luck!As I said, I've had the GTi for seven years and won't be selling it. The Rallye wasn't the same.
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