"Modern Shocks Don't Wear Out" - Fact or Fiction?
"Modern Shocks Don't Wear Out" - Fact or Fiction?
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TroubledSoul

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4,669 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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So, a fellow PH'er recently told me that modern shocks don't wear out, and don't need replacing until they actually fail. Is there any truth to this or is it a misguided statement?

I'm very sceptical, and can't believe a 100k set of shocks will be as good as brand new. I'd like to know if anybody can shed any factual light on this? If it is indeed true, then happy days!

kambites

71,660 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Fiction. The dampers on my Elise are definitely the worse for wear but still fundamentally work.

The Nur

9,168 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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hehe Is this bloke normally a reputable source of information?

Crusoe

4,126 posts

262 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Guess it would depend on the materials used. A state of the art metal in oil electromechanical damper probably never wears out and only needs replaced when the oil leaks out or some other component fails.

kambites

71,660 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Maybe he meant that the electronic rubbish fails so often that they don't have a chance to wear out? hehe

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Fiction.

TA14

14,332 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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TroubledSoul said:
So, a fellow PH'er recently told me that modern shocks don't wear out, and don't need replacing until they actually fail.
How do they fail if they don't wear out? A beautiful thought though.

TroubledSoul

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4,669 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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The Nur said:
hehe Is this bloke normally a reputable source of information?
Welshbeef told me...

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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TroubledSoul said:
Welshbeef told me...
And he had it from Gwagon111.

Crow555

1,037 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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My nearly 7 year old Ibiza run around is on 48500 miles and the suspension knocks and squeaks like crazy. I'm going to get it looked at but I'm not sure if it's just SEAT build quality, my driving style or the uneven roads where I live.

g3org3y

22,517 posts

222 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Papa Hotel said:
TroubledSoul said:
Welshbeef told me...
And he had it from Gwagon111.
rofl

bqf

2,290 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Reminds me of the time that a Hotel waiter once told me 'white wine never goes off'.

It was in Germany though.

pad58

12,549 posts

212 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Papa Hotel said:
TroubledSoul said:
Welshbeef told me...
And he had it from Gwagon111.
And he was talking to Airbreaks (Matt777)

smele

1,284 posts

315 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Our 300K Peugeot 406 is still on original shocks.

I think what was meant, that in the old days, shocks would wear out, become all bouncy, but these days they don't go bouncy, they just start leaking, which is a failure.

Certainly several of our Audi's have only got near to 100K before the shocks start leaking, but then they are probably driven a lot harder than the 406.

Spangles

1,441 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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They work by squeezing oil through small holes. In much the same way as car oil, shock oil is being degraded by this action. Various manufacturers recommend change at 50k miles. Whether you'll notice the difference is hard to say.

PhillipM

6,564 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Was there a large bull with it's tail up nearby at the time?

jimbobsimmonds

1,824 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Mine on my S60 were definitely knackered and were not leaking...

Dog Star

17,643 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I think it's hard to tell these days - cars are so stiffly sprung and heavy.

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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They most definately deteriorate with use. I also think most people would be shocked at how much of a difference new shocks and bushes make on their car with some milage under its' belt.

rallycross

13,758 posts

268 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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in the old days oil filled shocks would leak and completely stop working, hence floaty bouncy old bangers, if you changed to new shocks it transformed the car. its not like that now, new tec' lasts much longer, eg my bmw 335 is close to 190k on original suspension and it drives very well, I would say the suspension feels exactly the same as my 50k mile 335 which I recently sold. Obviously a new car would feel much tighter but at nearly 200k miles the shocks are performing well - so high quality shocks will last a huge mileage.