Driving with mobiles
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Vladimir

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6,917 posts

189 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Why do so many people still drive with a phone glued to their ear!
Every phone made in the last decade has a loudspeaker option so if you are retarded enough to use a mobile (without a proper hands free kit) while driving, at least use that simple function.

Van drivers are the worst offenders...

uknick

1,066 posts

215 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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So starts another thread on why do you use hold a phone whilst driving smile


Fubar1977

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171 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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anonymous said:
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Yes, because all van drivers have superhuman levels of coordination and are exempt from the same laws as the rest of us rolleyes

Don`t use a phone means Don`t use a phone, regardless of who you are or what you`re driving.

Vladimir

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Monday 30th September 2013
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uknick said:
So starts another thread on why do you use hold a phone whilst driving smile
Might be worth checking whether or not your sentence makes sense before starting that new thread...

Errmmm, van drivers (I drive a sort of van, albeit with a factory fitted hands free system) drive wide vehicles with large blind spots; of all road users, they are ones that need all the concentration they can get.




Vladimir

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Monday 30th September 2013
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anonymous said:
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Being "okay" at driving one handed whole completely distracted is like being "okay" at driving pi55ed. You're not coming across very well with this one...

andy-xr

13,204 posts

235 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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I'm fine with it, it's just that the law requires that I dont hold my phone, so wanting to be inside the law I bought and installed a bluetooth hands free. If the law didnt say that, then I'd still stick the phone to my ear.

I have found an auto easier, remember before the law changed doing a trip from Havant to Nottingham on the same call all the way and appreciated not having to change gears with my left hand

uknick

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215 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Vladimir said:
Might be worth checking whether or not your sentence makes sense before starting that new thread...

Errmmm, van drivers (I drive a sort of van, albeit with a factory fitted hands free system) drive wide vehicles with large blind spots; of all road users, they are ones that need all the concentration they can get.
Doh, should have proof read before posting.

In case you got the wrong idea, I am totally against the use of handheld phones whilst driving. It makes my blood boil when people try to justify the use. As you say, how much is a Bluetooth kit.


Vladimir

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6,917 posts

189 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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uknick said:
Doh, should have proof read before posting.

In case you got the wrong idea, I am totally against the use of handheld phones whilst driving. It makes my blood boil when people try to justify the use. As you say, how much is a Bluetooth kit.
Our van has it as part of a Kenwood multimedia system which is a VW brochure option so it's a grand. The BM has a Parrot i9200; £300.

Both are good but still distracting.

fangio

989 posts

265 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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andy-xr said:
before the law changed doing a trip from Havant to Nottingham on the same call all the way
Braggart and dhead, huh? rolleyes

Geekman

2,908 posts

177 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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I'm afraid I don't think it's dangerous at all. Texting is, but talking on the phone just isn't. I'd say it's actually less dangerous than using a sat nav, car stereo, or any one of the numerous gadgets modern cars are equipped with as you don't actually have to take your eyes off the road.

fangio

989 posts

265 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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andy-xr said:
before the law changed doing a trip from Havant to Nottingham on the same call all the way
Braggart and dhead, huh? rolleyes

Soolong

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159 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Almost got ran of the road today by someone trying to push into my lane on the A2 after a set of traffic lights were the road goes from three lanes to two. Me in the left hand lane, him in the middle so he had no reason to move over. I beeped at him and he ignored me, slowed down to let him in or else i would lose my front bumper. So as we get going he is driving down the middle of two lanes and i assume he is trying to get me back for beeping him as i see him looking behind at what i assume was me. i pull up next to him just before my turn off and he is driving along showing pictures/ video on his phone to his passengers IN THE BACK OF THE CAR. Not looking were he was going at all. he was still looking behind himself as i turned off.

As for drivers who text/speak on mobiles i see it all day long in my job, people do not care as it so easy to become complacent when driving, it makes you feel like you are detached from the world outside the car. We had someone go into the back of a lorry earlier this year when they were speeding up a hill, reached the top and went into the back of the vehicle missing the bloke working on it by about a foot. driver was on the phone.

Jacobyte

4,768 posts

273 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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fangio said:
andy-xr said:
before the law changed doing a trip from Havant to Nottingham on the same call all the way
Braggart and dhead, huh? rolleyes
No need to castigate him for doing something perfectly legal. I think he's just highlighting the fact that use of a phone whilst driving is not inherently dangerous compared to any other driver distraction (unless he was unaware of a trail of destruction left behind him on the M1).


andy-xr

13,204 posts

235 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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fangio said:
andy-xr said:
before the law changed doing a trip from Havant to Nottingham on the same call all the way
Braggart and dhead, huh? rolleyes
I guess that's subjective hehe

This was in 2002 when Nokia made a phone that lasted for days, it was legal to hand hold a phone and an automatic car made driving and holding a phone easier.

Vladimir

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189 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Geekman said:
I'm afraid I don't think it's dangerous at all. Texting is, but talking on the phone just isn't. I'd say it's actually less dangerous than using a sat nav, car stereo, or any one of the numerous gadgets modern cars are equipped with as you don't actually have to take your eyes off the road.
Yes it is when one hand is holding the phone. And unless you have a thought controlled mobile, you still have to bring up numbers, see who is calling, etc.

I have proper bluetooth kit but I'm still briefly distracted when I bring up a number (on the multimedia touch screen) and ONLY do it on a clear road. My Parrot is better as it's fully voice controlled but there's still a level of distraction.

Some of the attitudes here a rather disappointing.

Futuramic

1,763 posts

236 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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anonymous said:
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I quite like, well like a lot actually, women under thirty-five.

However you seem to much prefer van drivers; I can point you in the direction of some specialist magazines/nightclubs that cater for that kind of thing. I have scene and non-scene friends.

Additionally have you ever tried your local woodland area car-park on a Friday night? There are loads of van drivers there, for some reason.

calibrax

4,788 posts

242 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Vladimir said:
Yes it is when one hand is holding the phone. And unless you have a thought controlled mobile, you still have to bring up numbers, see who is calling, etc.

I have proper bluetooth kit but I'm still briefly distracted when I bring up a number (on the multimedia touch screen) and ONLY do it on a clear road. My Parrot is better as it's fully voice controlled but there's still a level of distraction.

Some of the attitudes here a rather disappointing.
Don't get a BMW with iDrive.

Let's face it, EVERYTHING, but you can't ban everything. If you could, the first thing I'd ban in cars are kids... no more mothers driving around not looking at the road while shouting at their kids who are running amok in the back seat...

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

249 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Let's not forget those who use speakerphone and hold the phone away from their mouth; no doubt thinking this qualifies for hands free as it's not held to their ear.

Vladimir

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Monday 30th September 2013
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calibrax said:
Don't get a BMW with iDrive.

Let's face it, EVERYTHING, but you can't ban everything. If you could, the first thing I'd ban in cars are kids... no more mothers driving around not looking at the road while shouting at their kids who are running amok in the back seat...
Tee hee - you either know my disdain for i-drive or it was just a lucky guess (my 335d hasn't got it - took AGES to find one without it). Parrot i9200 is a million times more effective.

Geekman

2,908 posts

177 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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Vladimir said:
Yes it is when one hand is holding the phone. And unless you have a thought controlled mobile, you still have to bring up numbers, see who is calling, etc.

I have proper bluetooth kit but I'm still briefly distracted when I bring up a number (on the multimedia touch screen) and ONLY do it on a clear road. My Parrot is better as it's fully voice controlled but there's still a level of distraction.

Some of the attitudes here a rather disappointing.
I, like the vast majority of people on the road, drive one handed very frequently. Not because I'm on the phone, just because I don't find that I need two hands on the wheel 100% of the time.

When someone calls me, I glance at the phone in the cradle to see who it is, then pick it up and put it to my ear. I fail to see how that's any different to a legal hands free kit

I get just as annoyed as anyone else when I see someone weaving all over the road because they're sending a text, but all I'm doing (and not doing very often either) is performing a task which was perfectly legal 10 years ago and really isn't that dangerous.

I'm not claiming to be an amazing driver, I'm just saying that my actions are not inconveniencing anyone else so I don't see why it's anyone's business. If I get pulled over and fined for it then I wouldn't argue about it - it is the law after all - but that hasn't happened yet. And I suspect it hasn't happened because I pay attention to the road, whether I'm on the phone or not.