Driving with missing wheel bolts
Driving with missing wheel bolts
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StottyZr

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6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Its stupid question time. If I were to drive with 1 or 2 wheel bolts missing (from a 4bolt hub) would the wheel hold?

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

195 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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There's only one way to find out for sure........

redstu

2,287 posts

269 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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How fast do you want to go and for how long?

davel*

311 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Not sure I'd want to find out!

Just go buy some more wheel bolts.

StottyZr

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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30mph for 8miles.

s p a c e m a n

12,128 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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3 points on your license if caught

StoatInACoat

1,355 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Might do. Consequences not worth experimenting though I'd have said.

Bigcarper

774 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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You can't by law drive a unroadworthy car on the road just buy a set on ebay for peanuts

ikarl

4,064 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I would if 1 one was missing, I wouldn't if 2 were missing

StottyZr

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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davel* said:
Not sure I'd want to find out!

Just go buy some more wheel bolts.
Thread is stripped from the hub!

Crusoe

4,124 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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better on the rear than on the front, dangerous but probably get away with it if you were gentle with your inputs.

redstu

2,287 posts

269 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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With one missing I might risk it , with 2 missing I wouldn't.

You would be rather stuffed if you had an accident though.

The Nur

9,168 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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It won't be a problem. It is illegal (even though I have literally just found this out) but my Golf Cabrio survived for a surprisingly long amount of time with 3 wheel bolts on the back right. Passed a number of M.O.T's too hehe

Don't spend any time worrying about it, but do get it sorted as soon as you can.

ETA: I never lost a wheel as a result of it and never even had any negative symptoms as the head was sheared off the bolt. Had to replace the hub. I did lose a wheel later, once the missing wheel bolt was rectified but that was on the front end and unrelated.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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With one missing out of four you'd probably be OK, I woulden't risk it with two missing though, unless you drive very slowly and accept that you might damage the wheel or snap it off completely.


R11ysf

1,968 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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But, I think you would be fine. Two of my friends bought a second hand car to drive across America in and on about day 2 or 3 the car developed a bit of a rattle / shake. Being non mechanically minded they just carried on. About 2 days and 500ish miles later the shake was too bad for even them to continue so they pulled in to a garage.

As the car was lifted up the two front wheel literally fell off!! The guy reckons the bolts must have been coming out for a while given the state of the hubs and threads but they probably did 100 miles on no bolts at all.

30mph for 8 miles with 2 bolts done up tight, I wouldn't even think twice.

pthelazyjourno

1,896 posts

199 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I would drive it with one missing. Wouldn't fancy it with two.

MH82

210 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Are the bolts opposite each other on the hub. The wheel should locate on the hub flange, the bolts are to ensure the wheel doesn't come off the flange (Although they help with some of the weight)

I wouldn't risk it though

Riknos

4,701 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I drove for a few miles once in a car where ALL the bolts were only done up hand tight. No wheels fell off, just a lot of shaking.

I'd say take it easy for the journey and it would be okay.

StottyZr

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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One is completely missing, the other has damaged thread so can't torque up properly. Two torque up fine though!

Righto, I'm going to take it steady, if any vibration begins I'll park up and get the car recovered. I'd expect some pre-warning to a wheel coming off? (such as vibration)

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Personally I wouldn't, not for that distance on the public road. It's just not worth the risk. And I'm not talking about the risk of just the wheel falling off. But all you need is for someone to drive into you or some other kind of RTA/RTI and you could end up in a world of grief.


However if you plan too, do you know if the wheel is hubcentric or not? If it is, then the bolts aren't locating the wheel, they are just holding it against the hub flange. 2 bolts in reality would probably hold this fine if you are careful for a short distance.

However if the wheel is bolt centric, as in it uses the bolts to locate the wheel and support the vehicle weight, then the bolts are doing far more than holding the wheel against the flange. This would be far more risky.