Small Jags
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Willy Nilly

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12,511 posts

197 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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BMW, Audi and Merc do small cars, so why are there no small Jags?

MNBrennan

118 posts

187 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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SPACE, pace and grace

lindrup119

1,235 posts

173 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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F-Type?

0a

24,159 posts

224 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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Coming soon, I suspect...

xrv

544 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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2015 will see an A4 / 3 series size car from Jaguar as well as a couple of others.

DonkeyApple

70,531 posts

199 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
BMW, Audi and Merc do small cars, so why are there no small Jags?
Much smaller margins so you need much more volume. That in turn means more factory space etc.

I suspect it's a tough market to start from scratch in and with a brand that would place you at the top end of price in a market where most sales are the bottom end.

I believe they had or have plans but I'm not sure they have access to the debt required to bring it to market.

soad

34,706 posts

206 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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lindrup119 said:
F-Type?
I think OP meant something smaller, a hatchback?

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

278 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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JLR will have something to come soon but prior to Tata ownership the development money wasn't available.

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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DonkeyApple said:
Willy Nilly said:
BMW, Audi and Merc do small cars, so why are there no small Jags?
Much smaller margins so you need much more volume. That in turn means more factory space etc.

I suspect it's a tough market to start from scratch in and with a brand that would place you at the top end of price in a market where most sales are the bottom end.

I believe they had or have plans but I'm not sure they have access to the debt required to bring it to market.
It's coming. JLR had to be making money to get to that bit of the market, but everything else seems to be going quite well now so I understand that after the new XF, the small car will be next on the list.

The XF replacement has been moved forwards because it's now a little small in comparison with the 5er, E class and A6, which have all gone a little larger this time around and so a new small Jag would have been only a little bit smaller than the current XF.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

230 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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IanMorewood said:
JLR will have something to come soon but prior to Tata ownership the development money wasn't available.
I go with this - time / resource / funding.

DonkeyApple

70,531 posts

199 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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davepoth said:
It's coming. JLR had to be making money to get to that bit of the market, but everything else seems to be going quite well now so I understand that after the new XF, the small car will be next on the list.

The XF replacement has been moved forwards because it's now a little small in comparison with the 5er, E class and A6, which have all gone a little larger this time around and so a new small Jag would have been only a little bit smaller than the current XF.
I do hope so. They are certainly doing well but TATA is having to suck them dry to finance their debt elsewhere.

dav123a

1,220 posts

189 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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From what I have read it will be called XS , there will a saloon , coupe , estate and an SUV. Will be interesting to see how they look.

DonkeyApple

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199 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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dav123a said:
From what I have read it will be called XS , there will a saloon , coupe , estate and an SUV. Will be interesting to see how they look.
The SUV that was bandied about last month looked rather lovely. I hadn't appreciated there was going to be a whole family.

J4CKO

46,986 posts

230 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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Looking forward to the new ones, should be nice, Jag have really come on of late, the F type is a stunner.

I think they are losing the dodgy image of old boys in blazers, Gin, Arthur Daley, Golf clubs etc and hopefully keeping the good bits, makes you wonder what they were thinking with the X type, s type and much as I loved the old XJ's they do seem to have dragged it on a bit long, have loved all the new stuff they have done.


Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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DonkeyApple said:
dav123a said:
From what I have read it will be called XS , there will a saloon , coupe , estate and an SUV. Will be interesting to see how they look.
The SUV that was bandied about last month looked rather lovely. I hadn't appreciated there was going to be a whole family.
Even when every piece which mentioned said SUV talked about a family on the platform? OK.

RichB

56,402 posts

314 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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lindrup119 said:
F-Type?
Small is the word, the F-type is bloody huge!

xrv

544 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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dav123a said:
From what I have read it will be called XS , there will a saloon , coupe , estate and an SUV. Will be interesting to see how they look.
It will not be coming as a coupe apparently.

The Vambo

7,748 posts

171 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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DonkeyApple said:
I do hope so. They are certainly doing well but TATA is having to suck them dry to finance their debt elsewhere.
Can a company that is investing $4 billion a year on product be described as being sucked dry?

DonkeyApple

70,531 posts

199 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Pothole said:
DonkeyApple said:
dav123a said:
From what I have read it will be called XS , there will a saloon , coupe , estate and an SUV. Will be interesting to see how they look.
The SUV that was bandied about last month looked rather lovely. I hadn't appreciated there was going to be a whole family.
Even when every piece which mentioned said SUV talked about a family on the platform? OK.
It's probably down to the fact that I have a series of more interesting and important things going on in my life. wink

MitchT

17,157 posts

239 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
BMW, Audi and Merc do small cars, so why are there no small Jags?
There was - the X Type - but it was really just a Mondeo in a posh frock. Apparently there is a new 'small' Jag on its way and it'll be done properly this time, so hopefully a truly credible alternative to its German counterparts.