RE: PH Fleet: TVR Chimaera 4.0
RE: PH Fleet: TVR Chimaera 4.0
Tuesday 22nd October 2013

PH Fleet: TVR Chimaera 4.0

TVR pondering ... sounds expensive



Sometimes time seems to pass too quickly and with a slight pang of disappointment I realised November was the month when both MOT and service are due for the Chimaera, even though it only seems like yesterday that I passed over my debit card to pay for the last bill. Sadly, I can’t really avoid these costs, and the insurance renewal is looming too, but it did get me thinking about what to do next...

A few stone chips need seeing to
A few stone chips need seeing to
I’ve already decided that unless (for some reason) the bailiffs come knocking at my door I will keep the TVR for life, so I took a walk around the car and made a list of all the things I would do to it if I had the funds, and the list was long. That posed a question, do I have a winter project and make it showroom fresh for 2014 or do I continue to use it and push the guilt I feel for not having washed it in ages to one side preferring instead to continue making local noise?

So, the list, let’s start with that. I still need to get the rear roof section replaced (a cost-effective solution from a local supplier has been suggested, life commitments mean I’ve done nothing further thus far) and if I’m going to get the rear section done then maybe the top section should be looked at too? I need some tyres, they will soon be sorted, but my wheel centre caps are fading and need replacing too. The windscreen is lightly chipped and I’d like to replace it (insurance perhaps?) purely for aesthetic reasons.

I would like to get some paint applied to cover some stone chips and scuffs and I have plans to install a more modern headunit and perhaps some rear speakers too. On that note I must thank PHer Tiscali who offered me the Pioneer DEH-P77MP I wanted at a reasonable price and I hope to purchase it from him very soon. Don’t get me wrong, if I polished my car up and parked it at a Sunday Service you’d stand and admire it because it looks so good. These jobs are to please a particularly fussy owner who can’t decide if he wants the perfect example of a (standard) Chimaera 4.0 or of he wants a car he can use without too much worry as it isn’t concours … decisions, decisions.

Happy (yet fussy) owner
Happy (yet fussy) owner
That leaves the chassis, strong I’m told, but it continues to keep me awake since a ‘detailer’ cleaned all the Waxoyl off a few years ago (without my asking) and the reapplication I had done never seemed to be as comprehensive. With winter approaching I will get a full chassis clean sorted and have already secured a large box of Dynax S50 to see me through the next few years with some confidence. I think I’ll get that done when the car is on the ramps for the service and MOT. It’s my main priority in fact.

2013 has been a bit of an odd year for the TVR. I’ve used it a lot but over short distances so the annual mileage is lower than normal, especially after I left it at home and took a borrowed Jaguar to Le Mans, but in terms of reliability it has been superb. Turn-key for 12 months with nothing more than a top-up of the oil a few weeks ago. It seems to prefer living in the carpark underneath my flat too, whereas my previous garage was damp and cold the carpark is warm and dry with good air circulation and the car is bone dry and seems to enjoy the warmer temperatures too with the battery remaining strong even after three weeks of inactivity.

It’s all going very well indeed. Speaking of the carpark, I have yet to set a car alarm off with the TVR despite more than 105db of unsilenced V8 starting up against a wall and rumbling around on a regular basis, yet while I was reversing a (sports exhaust equipped) Cayman the other day I set the alarm off on the Kia something-or-other parked alongside. Incredible and, if I'm honest, a little disappointing. 7/10, must try harder Mr Chimaera, we have British honour to uphold after all.

As this happy owner signs off I’ll leave you with a question. Do I spend a few quid getting all of my OCD niggles sorted or should I just get the MOT, service and chassis done leaving the rest to do as and when I can? I just can’t decide, but will take all the help and advice I can get!


FACT SHEET:
Car:
 1999 TVR Chimaera 4.0
Run by: Garlick
Bought: December 2009
Purchase price: £12,995
Last month at a glance: New home, summer sun, unfairly shunned

Previous reports
Winter hacks, daily use, new exhausts and thoughts of selling
Summer suits the TVR and Garlick has been making the most of it
The sun is shining and neither car has a roof, happy days

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Itsallicanafford

Original Poster:

2,958 posts

189 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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if money is tight, Fix the go and then worry about the show..

jeremyc

28,233 posts

314 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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shout Just use it. biggrin

The only certainty after replacing the windscreen and having the stone chips painted is that they will both soon get chipped again. smile

Denver09

134 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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MOT and Chassis would be my suggestion. You cannot enjoy a car that is not legal or road worthy.

:-)

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

193 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Stone chips....meh.

As above you'll get them done and then your road will be "surface treated" with gravel.

It's not like you will get rust forming on the stone chip areas...smile

roystinho

3,767 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Cars are for driving right?

I will be keeping mine going, doing the necessary little jobs, but if I did some of the bits I'd really like to do (couple of stone chips, new exhaust, new seats, wheel refurb) then I'd be less inclined to want to use it just to pop to the shops, for instance. It would end up as a special treat, whereas every trip is an event at the minute. It will end up as the car that is just for weekends, but not yet...

ps nice picture

Kenzle

154 posts

199 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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jeremyc said:
shout Just use it. biggrin

The only certainty after replacing the windscreen and having the stone chips painted is that they will both soon get chipped again. smile
This. And get the chassis waxoyled.

Then just drive it and enjoy it.
OCD niggles about cars never end and only get worse, you never get to a stage where you are genuinely happy with it and the OCD goes away. That's why it's a disorder.

RiccardoG

1,759 posts

302 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Another vote for just driving and enjoying it. If you make it pristine it will risk becoming a garage queen! Plus, patina is a good thing.

tvrwedgehead

123 posts

163 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Its' got to be used...keep it nice, but not so nice that you become paranoid about
every little thing - I can't survive without my weekly high octane addiction, eardrum busting blast, even if its just up and down the dual carriagway for 30mins.


graham22

3,326 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Wasn't this car pictured in a used Chimera guide in Evo magazine some years ago (possibly Performance Car at the time)?

900T-R

20,406 posts

287 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Echo the above. I just tend to take a small paint brush to the stone chips at the front every now and again, but only the ones on the bonnet - trying to make the vertical 'bumper' area stone chip- and scratchfree would be an exercise in futility on a regularly driven TVR...

Drive it, enjoy it, revel in its fine patina... smile

oh, and even my DEH-P77MP has that well-used but not neglected look - I did have a P88RS-II at some point as a replacement but it didn't work properly, I happily put the old one back in and never looked back...

Edited by 900T-R on Tuesday 22 October 13:19

aarondbs

883 posts

176 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Kenzle said:
This. And get the chassis waxoyled.

Then just drive it and enjoy it.
OCD niggles about cars never end and only get worse, you never get to a stage where you are genuinely happy with it and the OCD goes away. That's why it's a disorder.
This. Having just effectively written off my Alfa due to underbody corrosion (which was a little disappointing to find after spending 3 hours cleaning it ready for MOT and sale) I would say get it waxoyled ASAP before the roads start to bite again. No matter how much you spend on new clutches (£700), suspension and brake parts and making it all shiny, if it all corrodes underneath you it was a waste of money and time.

Lovely looking TVR as it is.



elvismiggell

1,637 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Kenzle said:
jeremyc said:
shout Just use it. biggrin

The only certainty after replacing the windscreen and having the stone chips painted is that they will both soon get chipped again. smile
This. And get the chassis waxoyled.

Then just drive it and enjoy it.
OCD niggles about cars never end and only get worse, you never get to a stage where you are genuinely happy with it and the OCD goes away. That's why it's a disorder.
Another vote for the same here. It'll last days, weeks or months until you end up feeling like you have to do it all again.

Scrof

197 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Against the grain here, I'm going to throw in a vote for the OCD approach.

If you don't, you will never truly be able to enjoy it because there will always be stuff in the back of your mind that will detract from your enjoyment of the car. You'll spend your life trying to convince yourself that the niggles don't matter to you, and I suspect that's a trick you'll never entirely manage.

The only problem, of course, is that if you then want to use the car thereafter, you have to be prepared to maintain the same level of financial commitment to your OCD ways. Otherwise it becomes a garage queen, and frankly, nobody wants that - least of all with a Tiv, which was built to be anything but. So if you do go down the OCD route, you have to make a promise to yourself to keep doing so, to keep sorting those niggles and foibles as and when they crop up, and to make sure that you keep re-applying that Waxoyl and taking the utmost care of the car possible. At the end of the day, though, that's the only way you should be treating it if your plan really is to keep it forever, as it'll pay dividends in 5, 10, 15 years' time.

This approach will take time and dedication, and most of all money - but if you can pour in all of the above, you'll end up with a Chim you have no reservations about, and that you can enjoy to its fullest whenever the sun peeks through the clouds.

And if you're in any doubt that I'm right, know this: it's the approach I'm taking with the BX, a car which is a considerably worse starting point and worth far less in pure financial terms. If I can do it, so can you. wink

truck71

2,328 posts

202 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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"I have yet to set a car alarm off with the TVR despite more than 105db of unsilenced V8 starting up.."

Agree you need to try harder, remember the first one I did in the Tuscan- a Fiesta parked in Acton at about 6am. A more immature yet satisfying bit of fun I can't think of.

GranCab

2,914 posts

176 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Just do the basics to the TVR and spend the excess cash on a decent haircut ...

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Rustproof, MOT and then use it. No more needed.

DaveL485

2,768 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Dirty, used and abused is always more fun*


*Also applies to womenhehe

gog440

9,298 posts

220 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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truck71 said:
"I have yet to set a car alarm off with the TVR despite more than 105db of unsilenced V8 starting up.."

Agree you need to try harder, remember the first one I did in the Tuscan- a Fiesta parked in Acton at about 6am. A more immature yet satisfying bit of fun I can't think of.
I will never forget the kind soul in their TVR who had parked right next to our tent at LeMans a few years ago. They obviously had an early ferry because they decided they had to start up a practically unsilenced v8 6 inches from my brothers head at 5.30 am. You have never heard such a string of obscenities as from a hungover bloke being woken up like that. biggrin

Now I have my own TVR I will admit there is nothing better than doing a tunnel run in a noisy v8, so my POV would be use the damn thing, thats what they are for. I would definitely get the chassis waxoyled and the mot done then get out there and enjoy it.

maston

872 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Well my 390 SE wedge needs a lot of work which I keep putting off as I just love driving it smile
Although I have now got to replace a burst water pump pipe as it is not driveable at the moment.
Get the bare necesseties done and wait for next spring for the niggles.
BUT don't forget to use it in the winter too biggrin

DavidLScott

1,048 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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For the 7 years I had mine it was a good used car - not a mint example I would be scared to take out for a run.
When the time came to move on due to lack of opportunity to drive it, it sold in 3 days so hardly a risky proposition.

Whatever else you may do, get the chassis treated properly - it never used to be that expensive to get it done professionally.
Wheel centres are easy to change and cheap so do them.
If the screen annoys you while driving it's probably an MOT failure,if so get it changed. Otherwise leave it until necessary.

Why do you need a radio? In 18,000 miles I had a CD on for about 50 of them and never used the radio.
The exhaust is the ICE.
My 'normal' cars always have the radio or cd playing.

Live with it and love it that way - not by polishing it every half hour.
OCD never made a car better to drive.