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Business partner's wife had her 18 month old Disco stolen yesterday. (break in and keys gone) I was really surprised to hear the police knew
of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
mrloudly said:
Business partner's wife had her 18 month old Disco stolen yesterday. (break in and keys gone) I was really surprised to hear the police knew
of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
So much for 'only the guilty have anything to fear' from blanket surveillance ..of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
Great for tracking the movements of innocent people going about their daily business, useless to stop/catch car thieves.
Lucas Ayde said:
mrloudly said:
Business partner's wife had her 18 month old Disco stolen yesterday. (break in and keys gone) I was really surprised to hear the police knew
of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
So much for 'only the guilty have anything to fear' from blanket surveillance ..of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
Great for tracking the movements of innocent people going about their daily business, useless to stop car thieves.
Interesting ... but surely the answer there is one of three:
1. They have not (by complete luck/know how) been seen
2. They have not used the car
3. They have changed the plate (masked it/ changed the number/etc).
I know the reservations about big brother etc etc but surely the sheer volume of data protects our anonymity - UNLESS the plate is highlighted for a reason?
Sadly in this case the theieves are wise to it but personally I think the benefits of having APNR far outweigh any cons (including the impact to our freedom !).
Just my two penneth...
1. They have not (by complete luck/know how) been seen
2. They have not used the car
3. They have changed the plate (masked it/ changed the number/etc).
I know the reservations about big brother etc etc but surely the sheer volume of data protects our anonymity - UNLESS the plate is highlighted for a reason?
Sadly in this case the theieves are wise to it but personally I think the benefits of having APNR far outweigh any cons (including the impact to our freedom !).
Just my two penneth...
mrloudly said:
Business partner's wife had her 18 month old Disco stolen yesterday. (break in and keys gone) I was really surprised to hear the police knew
of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
Lucas Ayde said:
So much for 'only the guilty have anything to fear' from blanket surveillance ..
Great for tracking the movements of innocent people going about their daily business, useless to stop/catch car thieves.
I'm guessing that those people who are worried about someone knowing about their movements aren't being totally innocent.Great for tracking the movements of innocent people going about their daily business, useless to stop/catch car thieves.
mrloudly said:
It was really accurate though, there must be far more ANPR capable cameras than we know about!
ANPR is everywhere here in N.I. At first it was just outside Plod stations, now every main road.Apparently it's to combat terrorism. I suppose it will soon be used to charge us for road use.
Only a matter of time.
mrloudly said:
It was really accurate though, there must be far more ANPR capable cameras than we know about!
I wouldn't be surprised - I see cameras all over the roads, in some pretty out-of-the way places.Not to worry though as they are only there to 'protect' us eg. to stop the car thieves - Except that the criminals can easily get around them by using cloned plates.
Not surprised that despite this example of how a rather comprehensive system of spying on everyone on the roads 24x7 has proven absolutely useless for the stated purpose, there are still some here that just can't get enough Big Brother.
ZOLLAR said:
Lucas Ayde said:
mrloudly said:
Business partner's wife had her 18 month old Disco stolen yesterday. (break in and keys gone) I was really surprised to hear the police knew
of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
So much for 'only the guilty have anything to fear' from blanket surveillance ..of all her cars movements the day before through ANPR CCTV. Told her exactly where she had been! Looks like a professional job,
no trace has come up since the theft...
Great for tracking the movements of innocent people going about their daily business, useless to stop car thieves.
TX.
I pass this ( http://goo.gl/maps/kVkRC )daily on my way into work (A22 Caterham Bypass) is that also an ANPR camera type device?
There are markings on the road that would seem to attach to the box. It is Plain on one side with a Glass section on the other as you pass it.
There are markings on the road that would seem to attach to the box. It is Plain on one side with a Glass section on the other as you pass it.
We all have something to fear from surveillance, and mark my words, access to privacy will be the preserve of the rich within a decade.
And to the 'nothing to fear' brigade just ask them if they'd be happy with CCTV in their lounge, their DNA on a global database, or an RFID chip implanted at birth.
And to the 'nothing to fear' brigade just ask them if they'd be happy with CCTV in their lounge, their DNA on a global database, or an RFID chip implanted at birth.
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