Crooked wheel after alignment
Crooked wheel after alignment
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Sump

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5,512 posts

197 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Got my car Hunter aligned in Sheffield. They appeared to do a good job, alot was in the red and it was all converted to green with thrust angle all looking good etc etc and it all looked straight.

Drove the car and the steering was crooked..gave it a week or so for tyres to scrub in and it was still very much crooked.

Took the car back and they said it all looks straight on the paperwork so it will drive straight, if we need to put it back on the ramp and adjust anything, you will be charged.......

I said screw that and left.

I did pay via credit card and I am not sure where I stand now...

randy

544 posts

306 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Either their machine isn't calibrated, they don't know how to do a geo or there is something else wrong with the car. Either way, in my (professional) opinion it's not tolerable to give a car back like that after a geo. Generally I road test every car we geo at my place and if it's not right it goes straight back on the ramp.

randy

544 posts

306 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Either their machine isn't calibrated, they don't know how to do a geo or there is something else wrong with the car. Either way, in my (professional) opinion it's not tolerable to give a car back like that after a geo. Generally I road test every car we geo at my place and if it's not right it goes straight back on the ramp.

73mark

774 posts

157 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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You shouldn't have left or if you did leave you should've turned around back in there and said the steering is wrong.Week later there just think it's something you've done

Magic919

14,560 posts

231 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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They should have the steering wheel 'straight'. Go back and tell them to sort it out and you don't expect to have to pay. If they refuse, talk to your card company. Stand where you like.

lufbramatt

5,689 posts

164 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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So does it pull to one side whilst driving or drive straight and just the steering wheel is off centre?

Dog Star

17,627 posts

198 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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If it's just the steering wheen that's off then they've done it wrong - all adjustments (Hunter and Beissbarth(?)) that I've have done have first had the steering wheel locked in the dead ahead position.

Mave

8,217 posts

245 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Why did you take it in originally; any problems? I wonder if all the setting were red because they didn't straighten the wheel properly to start with?

lufbramatt

5,689 posts

164 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Dog Star said:
If it's just the steering wheen that's off then they've done it wrong - all adjustments (Hunter and Beissbarth(?)) that I've have done have first had the steering wheel locked in the dead ahead position.
That assumes the wheel is on straight to start with. They should centre the rack first so you have an equal number of turns to full lock each way, this might not mean the steering wheel is straight.

Rickyy

6,618 posts

249 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Maybe the wheel wasn't straight to start with. Possibly done by a previous owner/dealer to hide the fact the alignment was so out!

AJB

856 posts

245 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Or just possibly the tyres... I had new track rod ends fitted to my E39 and the garage spent ages getting the steering wheel straight (did it on the machine, but it was off on a road test so lengthened one track rod and shortened the other by the same amount until the steering was straight).

6 months later I swapped the rear tyres onto the front, and the steering wheel was suddenly slightly off centre. The car didn't pull to either side before or after the wheel swap, but there must have been something about one set of tyres which caused it (probably the set I took off given that the garage had to spend a while to get it straight with those tyres on).

I've still no idea exactly what it could be about the tyres which did that - all I could think is if one of them was slightly conical (smaller diameter on one side than the other).

e8_pack

1,384 posts

211 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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I read that the control arms must be adjusted equally so the steering input is weighted evenly else you will have a poor handling setup. Easy way us to count the exposed threads on the tie bars, they should be the same both sides.

scott15

198 posts

189 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Maybe the steering wheel isn't straight.

A friend of mine took the steering wheel off, then put it back on straight, to cut the cost of having the tracking done before selling the car.

Could well be possible someone has done that on your car too!

Sump

Original Poster:

5,512 posts

197 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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I've had the steering wheel off to fit the cruise. It's pretty clear where the arrow centre position is so the wheel is on correct.

If you hold it straight, the car pulls to the left.

Spoke to trading standards, they said send a letter and take it to another garage for their opinion. If it is indeed wrong then ask original aligners why as in your opinion they have not done the job to a reasonable skill.

There's nothing bent etc. It had some new tie rods etc on the front, hence the alignment.



Edited by Sump on Saturday 26th October 19:39

PoleDriver

29,601 posts

224 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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scott15 said:
Maybe the steering wheel isn't straight.

A friend of mine took the steering wheel off, then put it back on straight, to cut the cost of having the tracking done before selling the car.

Could well be possible someone has done that on your car too!
Cheap way out, but you will have uneven turns lock-to-lock!

Sump

Original Poster:

5,512 posts

197 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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I'm working with Wheels In Motion, Tony seems extremely keen to help and will be giving them a call biggrin

Wish I was near him.

lincsls2

4,092 posts

170 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Easy this one.
They have aligned your cars tracking with the steering wheel off centre or it slipped a little when they were making adjustments. They normally put car on ramp and set the steering wheel straight then use a device that wedges between the SW and seat.
Nothing you have done, their mistake, they should correct FOC.

Rick101

7,190 posts

180 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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I travel down to WIM from York.
Competent geometry techs are rare.

elephantstone

2,176 posts

187 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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tIve got this with my mk3 MX5. Made the mistake of getting front alignment done at ATS been back 3times to get it sorted and they show me the screen etc and say its all lined up and they dont know whats happemed. Idiots.

Will be cutting my losses and booking it into somewhere that has some employees with brain cells.

Sump

Original Poster:

5,512 posts

197 months

Monday 28th October 2013
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Tony at WIM has sorted them out and they have invited me to come back to get it sorted when I can.