So, now its dark again - improving my car headlamps..
So, now its dark again - improving my car headlamps..
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Turn7

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25,753 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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04 Celica with Projector beam for dip beam.

Current light output is woefull to be honest.

So, do I fit a pair of Nightbreakers/Extreme + bulbs or bite the bullet and go for Xenons ?

Would appreciate some real world opinions, as the 'net is awash with heresay.

If I go for Xenons, wheres the best place to buy - would prefer to have them fitted I think, as my hands are not suited for the gynocology involved in bulb replacement.

Atrevetetete

320 posts

160 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Can't really help with xenons, but the difference a decent pair of bulbs can make is remarkable. That and making sure your headlamps are sparkling.


GokTweed

3,799 posts

181 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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I've got a 52 plate Celica t-sport with standard lights and they are brilliant. No complaints regarding performance from me! Does your model have different bulbs?
I'd either recommend an eye test or perhaps the high performance ones before copping out and joining the badly fitted HID knob brigade ;-)

Klippie

3,608 posts

175 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Bulbs is the cheapest upgrade I recently put a set of Nightbreakers in mine and they are very impressive.

Around £12 for a pair of H4's from eBay.

Jamesemt

57 posts

162 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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I bought the cheapest xenons on ebay which were in the UK. Think I paid £40. Secret is to not go too blue. Mine are 6K colour and look bright white. Makes a big difference as white lines and road signs tend to jump out at you. Not as good as non dipped beam, but not a million miles away either.

I couldn't go back to regular (old) headlights. Even thinking of converting my 205 and that rarely goes out in the dark...

Edited to add I don't consider myself part of the badly fitted knob brigade - they are pretty easy to fit and I've never been flashed for dazzling anyone ever.

Edited by Jamesemt on Tuesday 29th October 20:09

williredale

2,866 posts

182 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Klippie said:
Bulbs is the cheapest upgrade I recently put a set of Nightbreakers in mine and they are very impressive.

Around £12 for a pair of H4's from eBay.
+1 for night breakers. They are excellent.

340600

609 posts

173 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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I put some Halfords Ultra Brilliance halogen bulbs in my Golf a couple of weeks back (£30 for a pair) and have to say I'm fairly impressed, dipped beam seems to go further and they provide a much whiter light than the standard halogens. They still pale in comparison to the cars I drive at work with xenons though in all honesty.

Might be prudent to try a pair of these or similar first and if you're not happy with them start searching for xenon units?

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,753 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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GokTweed said:
I've got a 52 plate Celica t-sport with standard lights and they are brilliant. No complaints regarding performance from me! Does your model have different bulbs?
I'd either recommend an eye test or perhaps the high performance ones before copping out and joining the badly fitted HID knob brigade ;-)
Eyes are fine thanks, but I dont want to be a member of BFHIDKB either....

340600 said:
Might be prudent to try a pair of these or similar first and if you're not happy with them start searching for xenon units?
Is what my current thinking is....

dazz1871part2

234 posts

161 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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340600 said:
I put some Halfords Ultra Brilliance halogen bulbs in my Golf a couple of weeks back (£30 for a pair) and have to say I'm fairly impressed, dipped beam seems to go further and they provide a much whiter light than the standard halogens. They still pale in comparison to the cars I drive at work with xenons though in all honesty.

Might be prudent to try a pair of these or similar first and if you're not happy with them start searching for xenon units?
I had them on my mk1 focus and they was very good but then I got a e36 (I love it) and there not much better.

Dan Friel

4,236 posts

308 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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williredale said:
Klippie said:
Bulbs is the cheapest upgrade I recently put a set of Nightbreakers in mine and they are very impressive.

Around £12 for a pair of H4's from eBay.
+1 for night breakers. They are excellent.
+2, make a big difference.

Bohally

943 posts

177 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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I fitted a set of Phillips Xtreme Vision(I believe they were called!) to the Mondeo. What a difference. A very white light, nice spread on dipped and would go for miles on main beam. Think I paid around £30 for the pair.

Edited by Bohally on Tuesday 29th October 20:52

g3org3y

22,505 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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1) How is the state of the units? Would they benefit from a polish?

2) Philips X-Treme Vision is my bulb of choice (rather than Nightbreakers).

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

188 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Bosch +90% from Euro Car Parts - £9.99 in their perpetual online sale and pretty good!

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,753 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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g3org3y said:
1) How is the state of the units? Would they benefit from a polish?

2) Philips X-Treme Vision is my bulb of choice (rather than Nightbreakers).
Externally,as clean as you can keep them this time of year. Do you mean inside the projector beam? I think even ET would struggle to reach that.

Eski1991

1,113 posts

163 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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You are aware that it does get dark all year round?

Do you live in the arctic circle?

g3org3y

22,505 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Turn7 said:
g3org3y said:
1) How is the state of the units? Would they benefit from a polish?

2) Philips X-Treme Vision is my bulb of choice (rather than Nightbreakers).
Externally,as clean as you can keep them this time of year. Do you mean inside the projector beam? I think even ET would struggle to reach that.
The state of the exterior glass in terms of pitting/hazing. There was a thread very recently in which a PHer took a hand polisher to his headlights with rather impressive results.

Edit to add link.

Edited by g3org3y on Tuesday 29th October 21:17

lescombes

968 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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I use Trifa Xenon prime bulbs..... sold as Auto XS in Aldi for £3.99 a pair

Her indoors car has Bosch Plus 90's both bulbs are superb and as good as the usual suspects....

Bosch 90's for H4 are £9.99 a pair from ECP... but yer pays yer money and takes yer choice

zcacogp

11,239 posts

274 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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I've always had good results on older cars with running some thick wiring from the battery to the headlights and using some relays on the original loom to turn them on and off. The rationale being that as the loom gets older it's resistance creeps up and the voltage under load available to the bulbs drops off, meaning the lights are dimmer than they should be. If you attach a a voltmeter to the bulbs when they are on you may find you only have 9-10v at them (instead of the 13.5v or so that the alternator is producing.)

If you are naughty you can take this a stage further and put some bigger bulbs in the headlights (DON'T do this if you haven't done the relay mod though!) This may or may not be illegal (depending upon who you talk to).


Oli.