Daft idea? Winters on rear axle of fwd
Daft idea? Winters on rear axle of fwd
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HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

301 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Is this stupid? I know the traction is better up front, but if you were replacing 2 tyres on a fwd, apparently you should put the best tyres on the back... Any safety problems if you fit winters to the back?

TeaNoSugar

1,481 posts

195 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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What?

ETA - OK, if you're serious, then if it's slippery on the roads, surely the problem would be loads of understeer and no traction?

Edited by TeaNoSugar on Tuesday 5th November 21:26

Ledaig

1,809 posts

292 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Just leave the winters on the front driven axle and go everywhere in reverse - added bonus of power sliding fun in the snow smile




The general reason for putting the best rubber on the rear is that it is supposedly easier to control a front blow out - allegedly more likely with a more worn tyre. In this instance I wouldn't bother.

blondini

477 posts

208 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
... if you were replacing 2 tyres on a fwd, apparently you should put the best tyres on the back... Any safety problems if you fit winters to the back?
Yes and yes, you should really fit winters on both axles.

jjones

4,490 posts

223 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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have been running winters on front of my car for last 12 months with no issues, (couldn't be arsed getting the rear pair fitted so they are still sat in the garage).

HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

301 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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What problems would there be, apart from inability to climb steep roads? Seriously now please smile surely it would prevent the back from sliding?

stevensdrs

3,264 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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jjones said:
have been running winters on front of my car for last 12 months with no issues, (couldn't be arsed getting the rear pair fitted so they are still sat in the garage).
Wait till you have to brake hard on a wet surface and you will see the folly in this.

Meltham Terrier

382 posts

163 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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I think that the OP is referring to a marketing campaign by Michelin from about 10 yrs ago which said that they recommended that when fitting new tyres that they should be fitted to the rear.

Personally I would only run winters on all for corners as you could find that the car handles in a strange manor due to the grip be significantly different front to back.

If you were only going to put a pair of winters on I would have thought that you would get the best performance on a fwd car by fitting them to the front. .

jjones

4,490 posts

223 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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stevensdrs said:
Wait till you have to brake hard on a wet surface and you will see the folly in this.
had to emergency stop from 60mph to zero in the wet a month or so ago was no drama (old git pulled out of side junction turning right in front of me and then stopped half way across road when he realised what he had done). ABS juddered like buggery but the car kept straight.

HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

301 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Argh! How could better grip at the back be dangerous?

cruise control

64 posts

187 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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last year in october our daughter passed her test, we fitted her C2 with winters at the front, and with her limited experience drove through yorkshire daily to and from work and apart from one night when i had to go to her aid, ground clearance was her only problem (or the lack of it) she never got into any trouble. she just drove according to the conditions. and many people where she worked were surprised that she made it into work every day.

for as many years as i can remember we have fitted winters to the front driving wheels, mainly down to budget, now my range rover... when the cold weather comes i fit the better tyres to the front, to help steering and in the five years i have owned it never got stuck in snow.

i have read many comments of you will regret not putting the best tyres on the back, things like when you brake you will go into a spin...etc... i have always found that if the front end has good grip then it is far better and more controlable.

vx220

2,725 posts

264 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
Argh! How could better grip at the back be dangerous?
I think the point being made is if you have fwd, and only have/can afford one pair of winters, you should put them on the front!

Seems obvious to me, if the fronts have no traction, you won't be moving to see how safe the back is on your shiny new winter tyres!?!?!?

My old Austin Mini drove predictably in the snow despite the rear wheels clogged solid with snow, the back wheels just following on behind

poing

8,743 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Bought a car years ago that had winters all round when I got it. When the fronts needed replacing I got normal summer tyres, cheapest things halfrauds had since it was a cheap car. I only died a couple of times so I think you'll be fine.

Actually rather ironically the only time the damn thing went sideways was in the snow! Wouldn't have been a bad thing if it was planned, guess they were not the best winters!

Stuartggray

7,703 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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For FWD you need grip on the front on snow or ice, but you need as good grip on the back. Change all four - you cheapskate!

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

195 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Stuartggray said:
For FWD you need grip on the front on snow or ice, but you need as good grip on the back. Change all four - you cheapskate!
At last, some sense, rather than the "I would have thought" brigade.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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All four is best.
If you can only afford two, put them on the front.

But, adjust your driving accordingly.

blondini

477 posts

208 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
Argh! How could better grip at the back be dangerous?
Ah, but when the temperature warms up to suit summer tyre compounds the balance tips the other way and you'll have better grip at the front.



Burbleboy

220 posts

240 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Assuming your username has influenced 'the rear must have grip' way of thinking, propably best to return your mind to cars!

vx220

2,725 posts

264 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Burbleboy said:
Assuming your username has influenced 'the rear must have grip' way of thinking, propably best to return your mind to cars!
Or front wheel drive motorbikes?

vx220

2,725 posts

264 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Burbleboy said:
Assuming your username has influenced 'the rear must have grip' way of thinking, propably best to return your mind to cars!
Or front wheel drive motorbikes?