Rise of the UK 'SUV'
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HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

301 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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We started it of course, before anyone else made it popular.
Our roads were, and still are mostly rubbish outside of the motorway network.
No wonder the SUV or soft roader is on the increase. Forget tidy handling, hello forgiving ride and a degree of comfort & practicality. In todays environment, especially in the vastly over crowded south east, why wouldn't you have a SUV? There are many haters, but apart from when I am on my bike I am never happier on the road unless in a jacked up estate car. I like the ride, I like the space and comfort, and of course the illusion of a little off road ability. This includes being able to cross a flooded road without hydraulic-ing the engine. And of course, the ease of climbing in and out for us old gits has no small part in all this.
Anyone else 'get' it ?

schmalex

13,616 posts

236 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Yep. Cracking vehicles

decadent

2,568 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I get where you're coming from. I have a Leon FR with pretty hard standard suspension and aside from the motorways it isn't comfortable and I am forever dodging pot holes and man hole covers.

I am increasingly longing for something more comfortable and am eyeing up Qashquis, Rav4s, CRVs.


Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Once upon a time, before the awful horrors of sporty suspension, low-profile tyres and excessively large wheels all cars were comfy... Spec up a normal saloon (where available) with a comfort spec and it's just as good as an SUV, but with much better handling and costs. Don't really see the need to drive through flooded roads though. tongue out

heppers75

3,135 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Totally get it.

Mrs H has a Murano V6 petrol... Engine and running gear from a 350z and far more comfortable and you get a decent view and ride!

Dam thing still goes like a proper car and frankly for the most part, unless you want proper hoon handles bloody well!

Looking at an X6M, Cayenne GTS or FX 5.0V8 next time round, so we are very sold.

chibbard

1,554 posts

290 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Yep, totally agree. My wife's Kuga is great and I've inherited a Rav 4 since my dad passed away earlier this year. I've got quite attached to it. While the Cerbera sits in the garage on SORN for the winter.

deltashad

6,731 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Krikkit said:
Once upon a time, before the awful horrors of sporty suspension, low-profile tyres and excessively large wheels all cars were comfy... Spec up a normal saloon (where available) with a comfort spec and it's just as good as an SUV, but with much better handling and costs. Don't really see the need to drive through flooded roads though. tongue out
wink So true....

David87

7,032 posts

242 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I absolutely agree. For 90% of the time a 4x4 is a nicer thing to be in than a car. I regularly drive a Range Rover Evoque - I've been all over the UK in it - and it really is a lovely place to spend time. No, it's not as fun to drive as a sports car, but I enjoy the drive of a 4x4 more than an 'ordinary' car, and the ability to go down green lanes is great as they're an awful lot of fun!

veevee

1,458 posts

181 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Krikkit said:
Once upon a time, before the awful horrors of sporty suspension, low-profile tyres and excessively large wheels all cars were comfy... Spec up a normal saloon (where available) with a comfort spec and it's just as good as an SUV, but with much better handling and costs. Don't really see the need to drive through flooded roads though. tongue out
This. Just buy smaller sized wheels for your current car.

Stuartggray

7,703 posts

258 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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You don't need a SUV, you need a Volvo estate specced with steel wheels like mine. I've had Volvo's since 1986 with 15 inch 195/65 wheels fitted. Much more comfortable coupled to a nice soft suspension setup.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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For about a month I had car overlap - 996TT and a Range Rover (L322). Didn't take long before I found myself going for the RR keys out of choice every time. Too many other cars on the road, and road surfaces too roped/speed humped to death for the Porsche to stand a chance.

I'm not completely happy about it, but head has crushed heart to dust on this one.

David87

7,032 posts

242 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Stuartggray said:
You don't need a SUV, you need a Volvo estate specced with steel wheels like mine. I've had Volvo's since 1986 with 15 inch 195/65 wheels fitted. Much more comfortable coupled to a nice soft suspension setup.
I agree, but sitting up high is nice, and being able to drive through a 2ft deep ford is good fun too.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
I like the ride, I like the space and comfort, and of course the illusion of a little off road ability. This includes being able to cross a flooded road without hydraulic-ing the engine.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-23831558

slippery

14,093 posts

269 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I'd rather use my A8 than my ML (even though the ML is faster in a straight line), but perhaps I picked the wrong SUV. The body roll when even remotely pressing on makes the ML a not particularly pleasant place to be for passengers. Should have bought a Range Rover.

Neptune300

59 posts

166 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I part exchanged my M5 for a X5 for just the reasons you mention. Never looked back. The appalling state of the roads was just one reason.

DocArbathnot

29,039 posts

213 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Krikkit said:
Once upon a time, before the awful horrors of sporty suspension, low-profile tyres and excessively large wheels all cars were comfy... Spec up a normal saloon (where available) with a comfort spec and it's just as good as an SUV, but with much better handling and costs. Don't really see the need to drive through flooded roads though. tongue out
Quite right. Completely pointless for most users most of the time. Popular with yummie mummies (who often can't park the things @ Waitrose) and the keep up with the Jonesies fashion victim kind of families.

Always an exception of course but I really don't see the point.

kambites

71,564 posts

251 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Can't stand the things, personally; either to drive or to be around on the road.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Some simple rules. Avoid,

  • Sport suspension
  • Big diameter rims
  • Skinny profile tyres
Then you can enjoy a proper car without the need to join the "I'm sitting high so I rule the road" club.

We all know that when they get to the bends they're utterly useless....

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

236 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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DocArbathnot said:
Quite right. Completely pointless for most users most of the time. Popular with yummie mummies (who often can't park the things @ Waitrose) and the keep up with the Jonesies fashion victim kind of families.

Always an exception of course but I really don't see the point.
rolleyes no stereotyping there then? wink

DocArbathnot

29,039 posts

213 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Grandfondo said:
DocArbathnot said:
Quite right. Completely pointless for most users most of the time. Popular with yummie mummies (who often can't park the things @ Waitrose) and the keep up with the Jonesies fashion victim kind of families.

Always an exception of course but I really don't see the point.
rolleyes no stereotyping there then? wink
just an observation old boy.