Engine sound, why do we like it ?
Engine sound, why do we like it ?
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J4CKO

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46,958 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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With all the talk of EV's recently and the main thing that enthusiasts cite for not being keen, apart from batteries is the lack of noise.

I cant think of any other machine where it making more noise as a byproduct of its operation is considered desirable, Washing machines, Drills, Ovens, Lawnmowers, aeroplanes etc etc, the drive is always smooth and as near silent as possible operation, nobody says how they love the sound of their noisy old washer as it achieves 1200 rpm or the music that their lawnmower makes, its just a racket that you are glad when it stops.

So, why do we like car noise, it isnt some primal thing like us enjoying the smell of wood smoke as it means warmth and shelter, it isnt music either despite how much we say it.

If someone grew up in isolation in the wilds of Borneo or somewhere and newver heard a car until they were 21, if played a selection of classic engine noises, would they enjoy it.

I love the sound of my own car when I drive it, the feeling of controlling somethign powerful is very agreeable, but why then do hairs stand up on the back of my neck when I hear a Ferrari go past ? in reality its a quite a harsh shrill noise, why do we like it ?

I love engine noises, but I dont know why !

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Ooh, good question.
I assume it's to do with power. The noise of a jet engine is the same, also steam engines. But you're right about washing machines, that's just noise. It must be connected to the knowledge of what the noise means, I think.

chris182

4,238 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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I think the sound of a big V8 or V12 slightly resembles that of some huge primeval animal that wants to eat you. Maybe this triggers some genetic hard-wired response in the brain to do with adrenaline and excitement.

Interestingly it seems to be a very male thing. Women just don't seem to get engine noise, no matter how fantastic. They genuinely don't understand the difference between a thundering classic V8 and a Saxo with a fart can (at least all the ones I know frown).

Jurgen

236 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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I don't think someone who grew up in the wild would enjoy a heavily distorded electrical guitar or actually most of 'our' music either. It's probably a connection our brain makes depending on interest. A lot of non car people won't enjoy a nice V8/V10/V12 as much as most of us do. We probably associate it with power and manlyness smile

JDMDrifter

4,064 posts

195 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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If you're a 'car guy' its part of your enjoyment. If you're not a car guy do the following:

Listen to a Carrera GT at full chat

Listen to a 360cs on downshift

Listen to a burbling v8 idling

If you still don't like cars you're never going to!

skyrover

12,700 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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feedback... tells you what the car is doing.

Better sounding car's tend to have a bit more character IMO

skyrover

12,700 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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chris182 said:
Interestingly it seems to be a very male thing. Women just don't seem to get engine noise, no matter how fantastic. They genuinely don't understand the difference between a thundering classic V8 and a Saxo with a fart can (at least all the ones I know frown).
In my experience.

Most girls seem to love the deep rumble of the american V8, but less so the screeching high RPM sounds of a tuned japanese/european sportscar

Fugster

373 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Sitting watching TV last night and my better half turned to me and said, that sounds like a big meaty V8, I was so proud!! I think 12 years of noisy, impratical cars is paying off biggrin

J4CKO

Original Poster:

46,958 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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chris182 said:
I think the sound of a big V8 or V12 slightly resembles that of some huge primeval animal that wants to eat you. Maybe this triggers some genetic hard-wired response in the brain to do with adrenaline and excitement.

Interestingly it seems to be a very male thing. Women just don't seem to get engine noise, no matter how fantastic. They genuinely don't understand the difference between a thundering classic V8 and a Saxo with a fart can (at least all the ones I know frown).
My missus isnt a petrolhead but she thinks the 350Z sounds much nicer than the 944 but not as nice as a Mustang, she doesnt really know how many cylinders each has.

There was a V8 Mustang with a massive supercharger sticking out of the bonnet at a car show once, doing that classic loping idle thing, loads of belt noise, the owner revved it and it shook the ground, she has mentioned it numerous times since.

So, I think it effects non Petrolheads but they cant articulate the specific car and what makes the particular facets of the sound, but they know what they like.

Martin_Hx

4,029 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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I think its a man thing, we all like the sound a nice car !

Edit - Personally, it can be my Civic @ 8000+ rpm, or our 560's V8, or my dads 230 supercharger or some super car or a V6 or our old 5.3 V12... the engine is a cars heart and soul, that's where the connection lies for me.

Oh and i forgot to add, a low flying spitfire has got to be the best engine sound around !

Edited by Martin_Hx on Tuesday 12th November 11:00

Wrathalanche

696 posts

170 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Strange, I get no thrill out of a noisy car or engine note, even during motorsport, recorded or live. I don't know why. I don't have any interest in, for example, modern Ferraris - their styling tends not to agree with me. If one passed me in the street, I might give it a glance and appreciate its a nice enough car, but the racket off the engine as a bystander would just annoy me.

Saying that, if anything goes down my street with an interesting engine burble, I will leap out of my seat to see what it is out the window because I'm nosey.

I like a nice start up bark and rumbley idle though. But at full chat, I'm turned off. If it is something primal, I'm guessing I'm just missing that manly essence.


Sump

5,512 posts

197 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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When a 777 engine begins to spool up, it makes me wet.

E30Addict

825 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Sump said:
When a 777 engine begins to spool up, it makes me wet.
I like the noise of jets too (currently working next to the runway at Heathrow with planes taking off past the window), but IMO the older aircraftr engines sound the best - hearing Concorde (when flying) or a Spitfire/Hurricane gives me goosebumps.

J4CKO

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46,958 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Sump said:
When a 777 engine begins to spool up, it makes me wet.
Are you a lady ?

Farmboy UK

250 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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I think it starts as an association thing - those amazing engine sounds are linked to powerful cars and money and beauty.

If you then become an enthusiast the sound has a greater meaning. I would still stand there in awe if a saxo went past with a 360 CS engine in it!

Escort3500

13,531 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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V8s sound the best, especially with a blower, but the induction roar of a cammy engine on twin 40/45s runs mighty close and the Subaru boxer is pretty impressive.

LuS1fer

43,539 posts

275 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Diesels remind us that we are hunter gatherers once dependent on neighing horses then clattering tractors.

Obviously, you meant petrol engines though.
I think it is probably, as someone suggested, a primeval response to something that roars and the desire to control and tame it.
Akin maybe to the thunder of hooves across wide plains and imagining if horses could be riddena nd controlled and regulated in speed.

Sump

5,512 posts

197 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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J4CKO said:
Sump said:
When a 777 engine begins to spool up, it makes me wet.
Are you a lady ?
I'm anything you want me to be wink

Daniel1

2,931 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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We associate it with the pleasure the object gives us. If my washing machine sounded like a ferrari V12 and visa versa (and always had done) then we'd like that noise instead.

y2keable

116 posts

162 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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I think it's instinctive. As humans, we've evolved to react to varying sounds with different responses. For instance, a baby’s cry (even at low volume, through a wall, down a corridor ect) will wake a mother from the deepest sleep but an articulated lorry can roll past the window without making her flinch. We’ve learned to quickly take notice when we her a scream, glass breaking, someone running up from behind or when something heavy and metallic drops to the floor. These are all rather undesirable sounds that simply grind on us, to the other extreme there are sounds that can provoke feelings of pleasure; the wondering bass line of a blues riff, a purring cat, the shutter release of a Nikon F100… The roar/groan of a quality engine may simply be triggering a primeval response, the same response that that we used to get from hearing the call from a dangerous animal, only we know we’re safe so instead of terror and adrenalin, we feel pleasure…and adrenalin.