Cars that are quicker than they look
Discussion
If it's not been done before, one to oppose the other thread... Obviously a platform to argue about what fast and slow is too!
I'll start with the 205 XS:
Doesn't look a whole lot different to a 1.2, but could crack 60 in 9 and a bit seconds, and on the road was pretty much neck and neck with the 1.6 GTi.
I'm not saying it's a fast car, but 0-60mph is quicker than the majority of hatchbacks from 5 years ago, and quick for a 1.4 85bhp car - to me that's something that's quicker than it looks.
Off you go! No doubt this thread will be full of diesel saloons by the end!!
I'll start with the 205 XS:
Doesn't look a whole lot different to a 1.2, but could crack 60 in 9 and a bit seconds, and on the road was pretty much neck and neck with the 1.6 GTi.
I'm not saying it's a fast car, but 0-60mph is quicker than the majority of hatchbacks from 5 years ago, and quick for a 1.4 85bhp car - to me that's something that's quicker than it looks.
Off you go! No doubt this thread will be full of diesel saloons by the end!!
matchmaker said:
GravelBen said:
I guess most people know about fast Subarus now, but back in 1989 these were already a 2.0 turbo Awd bashing out 0-60 in 6.5, with a quarter mile in the mid 14s.
yes, what a weapon! proper farmers car too back in the day and massively under the radar.These were quicker than they looked:
620ti
T16 engine - 2.0l 16v turbo, 197bhp from a T25, so relatively low lag for its day. Car weighed about 1400kg. PG1 gearbox came with a Torsen diff. 0-60mph was 7.0secs. Pretty lukewarm now, but for a model released in 1993 looking fairly inoffensive like that it was often pulled up next to by German saloons rather than behind it - the Germans expecting that they needed to be in front of it.
I don't generally race from traffic lights, so the whole sleeper thing just got annoying for me. The constant flow of other people who saw what looked like a slow car and just had to get past and invariably drive slower just irritated me.
620ti
T16 engine - 2.0l 16v turbo, 197bhp from a T25, so relatively low lag for its day. Car weighed about 1400kg. PG1 gearbox came with a Torsen diff. 0-60mph was 7.0secs. Pretty lukewarm now, but for a model released in 1993 looking fairly inoffensive like that it was often pulled up next to by German saloons rather than behind it - the Germans expecting that they needed to be in front of it.
I don't generally race from traffic lights, so the whole sleeper thing just got annoying for me. The constant flow of other people who saw what looked like a slow car and just had to get past and invariably drive slower just irritated me.
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