Out of production tyres being sold.
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After doing a bit of google'ing I found Yokohama A520 tyres have been out of production for a while (maybe even 10 years.)
http://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/yokohama/a52...
£85 p/c delivered seems, to me, like the bargain of the century given the online praise and fast road nature of the tyre.
Assuming they HAVE been out of production for a while and they're just selling off old stock, can I be sure the tyre is safe and the rubber won't have perished or degraded whilst in storage?
Does anyone have experience of the A520 tyre or more specifically examples bought in the last 12 months?
http://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/yokohama/a52...
£85 p/c delivered seems, to me, like the bargain of the century given the online praise and fast road nature of the tyre.
Assuming they HAVE been out of production for a while and they're just selling off old stock, can I be sure the tyre is safe and the rubber won't have perished or degraded whilst in storage?
Does anyone have experience of the A520 tyre or more specifically examples bought in the last 12 months?
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news...
There's no way I would put tyres that are at least ten years old on my car. After this coach crash the parents of the girl who died have started a petition to make it illegal to have old tyres on vehicles regardless of how worn the tread is because the rubber degrades.
There's no way I would put tyres that are at least ten years old on my car. After this coach crash the parents of the girl who died have started a petition to make it illegal to have old tyres on vehicles regardless of how worn the tread is because the rubber degrades.
In my experience, buying tyres online can lead to tyres being delivered that are already aged to some extent,
Recently bought some Continental Premium Contact 5 from mytyres. They were 11 months old when they were delivered.
Contrast to buying some Michelin PE2's this time last year from a local tyre place. They were 3 weeks old. Something to keep in mind.
Recently bought some Continental Premium Contact 5 from mytyres. They were 11 months old when they were delivered.
Contrast to buying some Michelin PE2's this time last year from a local tyre place. They were 3 weeks old. Something to keep in mind.
Without wanting to appear daft, and knowing very little about car tyres, why are you so keen to buy this particular type of tyre?
If they, potentially, went out of production ten years go, that means the basic tyre design is at least ten years old.
In the motorbike world (something I am more au fait with), tyre technology has moved on incredibly in the last ten years; even the hot-poop tyre from two years ago will now have been shuffled down to an also ran, so a ten year old design would be as popular as a fart in a bubble-car.
Unless you just want them for a 'period' restoration, why do you want them?
If they, potentially, went out of production ten years go, that means the basic tyre design is at least ten years old.
In the motorbike world (something I am more au fait with), tyre technology has moved on incredibly in the last ten years; even the hot-poop tyre from two years ago will now have been shuffled down to an also ran, so a ten year old design would be as popular as a fart in a bubble-car.
Unless you just want them for a 'period' restoration, why do you want them?
From memory of a tyre segment in 5th gear before the recommendations were change your tyres on. 3mm as that seems to be the cliff edge in stopping distance though still legal ( if you can afford to do so).
The other bit was tyres should be ditched if they are 7 years old or older rubber perishes there will be cracks viable or not which could result in worst case scenario a blow out at motorway speed which would be a horrific situation to be out into.
Tyres are date/year stamped so ask the question.
Personally I'd like the MOT to add tyre age into the test 7 years old is a fail regardless of tread depth.
The other bit was tyres should be ditched if they are 7 years old or older rubber perishes there will be cracks viable or not which could result in worst case scenario a blow out at motorway speed which would be a horrific situation to be out into.
Tyres are date/year stamped so ask the question.
Personally I'd like the MOT to add tyre age into the test 7 years old is a fail regardless of tread depth.
22Rgt said:
Old tyres are fine if theyve been stored correctly ie away from UV light. I have some new old stock Michelin ACS tyres that are circa 50 years old and still as supple the day they left the factory..
But there is no way of determining how these were stored its pure assumption. What's the price difference?
Have a read through this for Michelin's view:
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/learn-share/buying...
For those that can't be bothered:
"After five years or more in service, your tyres should be thoroughly inspected at least once per year. If the need arises, follow the recommendations of the vehicle manufacturer regarding replacing the original equipment tyres. As a precaution, if the tyres have not been replaced 10 years from their date of manufacture (see how to read a tyre sidewall), Michelin recommends replacing them with new tyres. Even if they appear to be in usable condition and have not worn down to the tread wear indicator."
All will be fine unless you are unfortunate enough to have a serious accident & vehicle examiners get involved.
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/learn-share/buying...
For those that can't be bothered:
"After five years or more in service, your tyres should be thoroughly inspected at least once per year. If the need arises, follow the recommendations of the vehicle manufacturer regarding replacing the original equipment tyres. As a precaution, if the tyres have not been replaced 10 years from their date of manufacture (see how to read a tyre sidewall), Michelin recommends replacing them with new tyres. Even if they appear to be in usable condition and have not worn down to the tread wear indicator."
All will be fine unless you are unfortunate enough to have a serious accident & vehicle examiners get involved.
Ahh nice one Guys!
I didn't realise tyres had the production date on the sidewall.
As suggested I'll contact the supplier (Black circles) for the production date, as well as Yokohama directly for further information.
In answer to some above comments, there is no real reason I was opting for this one, just fancied a change. For the price, they seemed to fit the bill nicely.
If the A520's are indeed old stock, I'll just opt for some AD08r's or Toyo R1R's instead!
I didn't realise tyres had the production date on the sidewall.
As suggested I'll contact the supplier (Black circles) for the production date, as well as Yokohama directly for further information.
In answer to some above comments, there is no real reason I was opting for this one, just fancied a change. For the price, they seemed to fit the bill nicely.
If the A520's are indeed old stock, I'll just opt for some AD08r's or Toyo R1R's instead!
Ozzie Osmond said:
Captain Cadillac said:
NO!Using radials that are more than 5 years old is unsafe.
What a load of twaddle.No doubt you'll go into some kind of "Health & Safety meltdown" when your airbags celebrate their next birthday!!
Moisture, over time, seeps into the casing, through the rubber and starts to corrode the steel belts. The rust causes expansion, and something has to give and that's usually the tread plies.
Are they likely to delaminates at 5 years? Maybe, maybe not. On my dear departed Packard I had the tread rip off the carcass of one of the tires once. I opened the garage for the first time in months (car was parked up for the winter and kept on a battery tender) and found that the tread had peeled right off of the carcass on the right front tire. The carcass was still fully inflated as well.
There was clear corrosion visible on the steel belts, just to be sure I cut the tire in half and sure enough, there was visible rust on the belts. These were 9 year old tires with perhaps 2-300 miles on them and the car was kept in a dehumidified and climate controlled garage.
They had NO signs of dry rot or cracking/checking, they looked absolutely as new. I wonder when they would have failed if they had seen more use?
In a climate as humid as the UK I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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