Which diesel estate: 2004 - 2007 Mondeo or Vectra
Discussion
Hi all,
Am looking for a replacement diesel workhorse.
Mondeo or Vectra.
These seem to give most value for money.
I have generally had Fords, but I am a touch dubious about the Mondeo, and the fact that they have a weak spot, in the way of the injectors, and thus bringing on the "glow plug" light, and dropping into limp mode.
Bearing this in mind does the similar aged Vectra's 2004 to 2007, suffer any problems that I should be aware of?
The problems need not be confined to engine, but any noticible problems, eg, gearbox, suspension, electrics .
vette
Am looking for a replacement diesel workhorse.
Mondeo or Vectra.
These seem to give most value for money.
I have generally had Fords, but I am a touch dubious about the Mondeo, and the fact that they have a weak spot, in the way of the injectors, and thus bringing on the "glow plug" light, and dropping into limp mode.
Bearing this in mind does the similar aged Vectra's 2004 to 2007, suffer any problems that I should be aware of?
The problems need not be confined to engine, but any noticible problems, eg, gearbox, suspension, electrics .
vette
You'd be daft to buy either when you could get an Octavia at that age before all the emissions rubbish. Stick to the 1.9 engine. If you want some go, get a PD130 in the Mk1 but quite rare, else 110BHP, or non-DPF PD105 MkII. The 2004 Mk1s are so cheap you could get an excellent example. All make good reliable BHP gains from remaps.
The Vectra has all the same weak points as the Mondeo (or any modern diesel) but is the far worse car apparently 
The Vectra C estate is HUGE!
More importantly, yes the 1.9 CDTI 150 has it fair share of issues however,
If you can look out for a later one most of the issues dogging the early ones are fixed, A looked after example can be had for around £3500, put good quality fuel in it, don't drive it like a hire car and It'll be no worse than any other make.
On the plus side it's half the cost of a VW, better built, unprotentious, easily does 50mpg, more on a run. Every garage can fit one, everyone stocks the parts, service items are very cheap from Vauxhall - so just service it a lot more regularly than recommended - 6 months / 8k to keep a good one 'sweet', seriously It'll be something like £40 for oil and a filter from VX.
Last Ford I had was awful, nastily built, no drivers car either.
Depends what you are doing with it? as a safe family car, for eating up motorway miles find a nice Vectra C...I don't think there is a better bargain out there and it really is what they are designed to do and they are good at it.
The Vectra C estate is HUGE!
More importantly, yes the 1.9 CDTI 150 has it fair share of issues however,
If you can look out for a later one most of the issues dogging the early ones are fixed, A looked after example can be had for around £3500, put good quality fuel in it, don't drive it like a hire car and It'll be no worse than any other make.
On the plus side it's half the cost of a VW, better built, unprotentious, easily does 50mpg, more on a run. Every garage can fit one, everyone stocks the parts, service items are very cheap from Vauxhall - so just service it a lot more regularly than recommended - 6 months / 8k to keep a good one 'sweet', seriously It'll be something like £40 for oil and a filter from VX.
Last Ford I had was awful, nastily built, no drivers car either.
Depends what you are doing with it? as a safe family car, for eating up motorway miles find a nice Vectra C...I don't think there is a better bargain out there and it really is what they are designed to do and they are good at it.
uk_vette said:
Hi all,
Am looking for a replacement diesel workhorse.
Mondeo or Vectra.
These seem to give most value for money.
I have generally had Fords, but I am a touch dubious about the Mondeo, and the fact that they have a weak spot, in the way of the injectors, and thus bringing on the "glow plug" light, and dropping into limp mode.
Bearing this in mind does the similar aged Vectra's 2004 to 2007, suffer any problems that I should be aware of?
The problems need not be confined to engine, but any noticible problems, eg, gearbox, suspension, electrics .
vette
Would a late model Pug. 406 HDi (last ones 53 reg.?) be suitable? I don't know about the 407.Am looking for a replacement diesel workhorse.
Mondeo or Vectra.
These seem to give most value for money.
I have generally had Fords, but I am a touch dubious about the Mondeo, and the fact that they have a weak spot, in the way of the injectors, and thus bringing on the "glow plug" light, and dropping into limp mode.
Bearing this in mind does the similar aged Vectra's 2004 to 2007, suffer any problems that I should be aware of?
The problems need not be confined to engine, but any noticible problems, eg, gearbox, suspension, electrics .
vette
I have a 406 HDi that is now 13 years old, with 182,000 on the clock, and it is running very nicely and the engine hasn't been touched apart from having its EGR gubbins cleaned out once. Oil and filter change every 6,000 miles seems to have kept it very happy, but maybe you don't like Peugeots. Are they excluded?
philmots said:
Do not go anywhere near the 1.9 diesel Vauxhalls..
Just have a quick Google - start with Honest John
This, this & this with bells on.Just have a quick Google - start with Honest John
If I had the time I'd write out the list of the problems I've had with mine in the last year, here's just a few things.. Gearbox, DMF, swirlflaps. There is much much more. They are horrendous vehicles to be avoided at all cost.
Edited by mygoldfishbowl on Sunday 1st December 17:31
'Touch wood' the 08 plate Mondeo I drive has been been trouble free. It's also incredibly comfy and it's far better to drive than the Vectra courtesy car I once had.
The Mondeo certainly isn't exciting but I'd recommend one. Look for a decent trim level like Titanium X so you get a few nice extra bits.
The Mondeo certainly isn't exciting but I'd recommend one. Look for a decent trim level like Titanium X so you get a few nice extra bits.
GFraser said:
'Touch wood' the 08 plate Mondeo I drive has been been trouble free. It's also incredibly comfy and it's far better to drive than the Vectra courtesy car I once had.
The Mondeo certainly isn't exciting but I'd recommend one. Look for a decent trim level like Titanium X so you get a few nice extra bits.
An 08 plate will be a Mk4 with the PSA engine, much more reliable than the Ford Puma TDCi in the Mk3. The Mondeo certainly isn't exciting but I'd recommend one. Look for a decent trim level like Titanium X so you get a few nice extra bits.
Every car has it's inherant issues, but if it's just for knocking about the doors and abusing... is any modern (ish) diesel really a good idea? Stop start driving doesn't do their EGR systems and the DPF's any good. Vectra's do get a very bad press, yes they have some common issues but I also know of several taxis that have done 250,000 and beyond with relaitively few issues. Does come down to luck I suppose but they do seem a bit soft, suspension is problematic too. I'd spend a grand less, but a V6 Omega and spend the rest of the extra fuel that it probably won't use... the CDTi isn't that economical when being 'driven'.
Potentially try and find a Mondeo ST TDCI that has had its clutch and flywheel changed (alongside receipt). As far as diesels go might not be to bad of a car handling wise alongside the heated seats, half leather and other relatively decent spec like xenon lights parking sensors etc.
Plus point about Vectra is the sheer size of the boot, absolutely huge cant be much in it load wise between that and a merc E class.
Reliability I know a few people who haven't had issues with them. I know of more people who have had problems.
Plus point about Vectra is the sheer size of the boot, absolutely huge cant be much in it load wise between that and a merc E class.
Reliability I know a few people who haven't had issues with them. I know of more people who have had problems.
Was recently looking for estate cars for Dog duties - the Mrs liked the look of the Signums as they are not as boxy. Looked a 1.9 diesel - absolute shed - instead found a well cared for 2007 56 plate model with the 2L turbo petrol engine which was shared by many Saabs. It is an occasional car so the MPG isn't so important but its actually not bad anyway - getting 45 on the motorway and 24 around town.
Engine is chain driven and it has lots of toys - direction Xenons, Sat Nav, cruise, elec everything, auto lights / wipers and tons of space. The only thing which might put people off is the seating layout, as the middle rear seat is not for long journeys it's more a very comfortable 2+2.
107k - full S/H, recent clutch & flywheel - 4 new tyres, 12 month MOT and 6 months tax - all for less than £2k. Happy days
Engine is chain driven and it has lots of toys - direction Xenons, Sat Nav, cruise, elec everything, auto lights / wipers and tons of space. The only thing which might put people off is the seating layout, as the middle rear seat is not for long journeys it's more a very comfortable 2+2.
107k - full S/H, recent clutch & flywheel - 4 new tyres, 12 month MOT and 6 months tax - all for less than £2k. Happy days
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