RE: Saab - it lives!
Monday 2nd December 2013

Saab - it lives!

Something stirs in Trollhatten - yes, that's the Saab production line starting up!



"The Saab Saga: It's Over" - that was how we announced that the quirkier of Sweden's two car companies was closing its doors for the final time back in 2011. Its passing was mourned by car enthusiasts the world over. After a long, drawn-out illness, the death knell for the days of big boost, unusual styling, and impossibly comfortable seats had sounded. Saabs always offered something a little different - a refreshingly cerebral counterpoint to the dourness and muscle of the German big three. And for that reason, while never the sharpest cars on the road, they stole the hearts of many a PHer.

'New' 9-3s will be mostly headed for China
'New' 9-3s will be mostly headed for China
It's with some satisfaction, therefore, that we can go back on that headline this morning. For you see, the saga continues. Trollhattan is once again abuzz with the sound of a working car plant. Saab is alive once more.

The company's owners, National Electric Vehicle Sweden (or NEVS) - a joint Swedish-Chinese concern - released a video earlier this year of the first pre-production 9-3 rolling off the production line. Today, even better news: the company has re-started the lines properly. Though before we get too excited, we should point out that this isn't exactly a full-blown explosion back into the upper echelons of mainstream series production. In fact, the company's only planning to put together 10 cars every week at first, and NEVS is cautiously managing expectations, with spokesman Mikael Ostlund describing its expectations to Automotive News Europe as "humble".

What's more, the only cars we'll get for the time being will be new examples of the old 9-3, a model which was already verging on the pensionable when Saab closed down two years ago. Nevertheless, at least it'll be fairly potent, with the 220hp 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine that powered the old Aero model providing motive power. So we should see a 0-62mph time of below seven seconds, and a top speed of around 150mph. Prices should be pretty reasonable, too, starting at 279,000SEK for the manual version (around £26,000) - for comparison, the 184hp BMW 320i sells in Sweden for 303,000SEK, or just over £28,000.

Don't hold your breath for a return to the glory days
Don't hold your breath for a return to the glory days
NEVS also plans to bring to market an electric model in spring 2014, pitched squarely at the Chinese market, and probably with a few cosmetic tweaks. The city of Qingdao, which has a 22 per cent stake in the company, has already ordered what it calls a "pilot fleet" of 200 of these. China is, in fact, where NEVS is intending to sell most of its output for the foreseeable, though a few cars will be sold to the Swedish market directly through its website.

There's no talk yet of new models or exports to the rest of the world, or indeed, exactly what the 'Electric' part of Saab's parent company will mean for its future range. Mind you, that's probably a good thing. Either way, the road ahead for Saab does not look to be an easy one, especially with a range that's looking peakier than most. But you know what? We'd rather it was alive and kicking than consigned forever to the history books. Dare we hope that we might one day see some future Shed fodder in the shape of another big, fast, plush, and rapidly-depreciating estate? Or perhaps - cross your fingers properly, everyone - a true return to form by way of a modern successor to the classic 900 Turbo? Yeah, OK - we're probably getting a bit ahead of ourselves now. But the one inescapable fact is that Saab's back. And for car nuts at least, that fact alone makes the world a slightly better place.

 

[Sources: NEVS, Automotive News Europe]

 


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Digga

Original Poster:

48,343 posts

313 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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If they can carry on making intelligent, but 'different' motors, then hurrah.

I never owned a Saab but always admired them and found them interesting. A 900 turbo must be one of the most 'evergreen' motors there is, aside from the cult classics like the Mini and 911.

dlockhart

434 posts

202 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Saab have a nostalgic place in my heart I do worry for the viability once they need to develop a new car (so in 5-7 years) I fear this may be a short lived revival

HustleRussell

26,581 posts

190 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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I hope they resume production of the new 9-5, those always looked good to me.

Pistachio

1,116 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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HustleRussell said:
I hope they resume production of the new 9-5, those always looked good to me.
That ain't going to happen as it is owned by GM in terms of intellectual property rights as far as I know.
But I agree it was a great looking car.
All the best to SAAB go for it guys

clubsportguy

206 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Its a pity the Labour government let the Rover group go to the wall. Something which made thousands of people unemployed in the process!!! Very short sighted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DervVW

2,223 posts

169 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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which saab is it with the huge one piece rear light?

parabolica

7,017 posts

214 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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DervVW said:
which saab is it with the huge one piece rear light?
That was the new 9-5 that was release right before it went under.

rtz62

3,799 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Only ever owned one Saab, a 900 16v Turbo, but what a car it was back then.

Ive always had a hankering for a 99 Turbo, but the prices of those..well, lets say at the recent Classic Car Show at the NEC, a guy on the stand told me they fetch anywhere from £4k to £11k,

I would suggest it wont be long until people wake up to this great car and the prices go the way of Escort Mexicos etc, i.e out of my price range.

Sid's Dad

576 posts

171 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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clubsportguy said:
Its a pity the Labour government let the Rover group go to the wall. Something which made thousands of people unemployed in the process!!! Very short sighted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Short sighted? Really? An outdated factory with poorer than average productivity in a high cost region, at a time of chronic overcapacity in the car industry? And a privately owned one at that?

Apart from the fact that the notion of state intervention in private sector companies is thirty years out of date (thank God) it was a tough but sensible decision to finally pull the plug on the old dinosaur.


Edited by Sid's Dad on Monday 2nd December 13:30

Barchettaman

7,282 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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NEW Saab 9-5´s are available for +/- 11k.
Anyone brave enough? Seems like a lot of metal for the money....

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Great news about Saab smile

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

254 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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This has the odious whiff of MG Rover about it.

JMF894

6,619 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Crosses finger but doesn't hold breath.....................

Martin30

133 posts

157 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Barchettaman said:
NEW Saab 9-5´s are available for +/- 11k.
Anyone brave enough? Seems like a lot of metal for the money....
I have a 2010 220bhp Aero model that I bought 6 months and 10k miles ago. I think it is a great car.

Some of the unique parts are allegedly hard to get hold of (windscreens for HUD cars for example), but this and a few comical un-fixed bugs in the SatNav system are the only real negatives.

It is a lightly tweaked Insignia underneath, so all the normal running parts are plain old GM and everything is bulletproof.

Martin.



toerag

758 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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TBH *launch control* could use a little work.

Falling Down

5,198 posts

311 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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I have had two Saabs - a 9-5 SE which was great. Sold that on 3 years later with 90,000 miles. Supreme, comfortable wafty drive gentle turbo boost. An absolute delight to own, with a tremendously assuring 'thunk' when closing the doors.

Changed it for a 9-3 Aero. That was the worst car I have ever owned and severely disappointing. The build materials were awful - seemingly most of the interior being made from the same material as plastic egg boxes, and creaked even more. Most of the electronics would decide not to communicate with the rest of the car, leaving me without air con on one of the hottest days of a summer (actually for 3-4 days). Some pixels went on the sat nav screen. It was changed under warranty twice for new screens, both of which also had missing pixels, but at least the contrast on the screen worked. Utter shed.

Then put down deposit on a used 9-5 Aero estate with 10,000 miles on it, ex Saab UK owner. Unfortunately, their idea of 'maybe one or two stone chips' on the car was nearer to - 'the entire side of the car needs repainting due to the long deep scratches', so lost my deposit on it after refusing to buy.

Still love the 9-5 especially the estate. The last incarnation looked great. Unfortunately, I can only see this revival being shortlived even with the Chinese partnership. I wish them well though and hope I am wrong (so long as they don't work on Fridays, which was the day my 9-3 must have been built).

stuartrav

52 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Where can you still buy the 95 new? Genuinely interested as looking for a 2nd largish car and one of these could fit the bill perfectly as at circa that price they sould like a good cheap option.

Edited by stuartrav on Monday 2nd December 14:12

B10

1,379 posts

297 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Sid's Dad said:
clubsportguy said:
Its a pity the Labour government let the Rover group go to the wall. Something which made thousands of people unemployed in the process!!! Very short sighted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Short sighted? Really? An outdated factory with poorer than average productivity in a high cost region, at a time of chronic overcapacity in the car industry? And a privately owned one at that?

Apart from the fact that the notion of state intervention in private sector companies is thirty years out of date (thank God) it was a tough but sensible decision to finally pull the plug on the old dinosaur.


Edited by Sid's Dad on Monday 2nd December 13:30
Agree in part. BMW had stripped away anything useful. Alchemy should have been allowed to take over MG Rover. However that idiot Buyers was in the government.
However 'good' state intervention can be beneficial. Without Rolls Royce (cars and engines) would not exist without the 1971 Labour government. Renault, VW, Porsche may not exist without regional or state intervention.
Personally I would like to see all the utilities back in state control, rather than this daft system of no real choice (just different call centres) etc.

zefrog

22 posts

192 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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always likes both cars and drivers, this kanda unique for cars makers (except cat and kit cars biggrin ) , love bmw cars hate drivers, same for AM, saab has been alsways very special, hope they will do again special/different/appealing cars, the only way to survive tmho

Fartgalen

6,929 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Are all the closed down Saab dealers going to start again ? Where's the dealer network ?