Can we agree that bikes are a dead end for urban transport?
Can we agree that bikes are a dead end for urban transport?
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Nikolai Petroff

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589 posts

163 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Can we please stop with this nonsence "Bycicles are the future of urban transportation". No they are not. They are typewriters of the mobility world. They are fine when used as exercise machines (especially when fixed to the floor, with a roof overhead and safe from traffic) but let's not kid ourselves about their future. I for one do not see myself riding a metal dildo with spandex pants for potection from multi-ton vehicles and in freezing rain. Let's just look at the negatives.

1. They require acrobatic/physical skill. So if you are drinking or old or disabled, they are a bad idea.
2. Exposed to the elements. Rain, snow - in many countries they a regular occurence.
3. Physical exertion. Fine if you want to drop a kilo or two, but when it's +30 outside and you are wearing a suit?
4. Lack of storage. Can't get much shopping into one without fatally altering the balance and center of gravity.
5. Health. Riding so much hard metal is surely bad for the prostate.
6. Injury. Self explanatory.
7. Speed. If you want to ride safe and not get tired, it's not much higher then a brisk walk.

The Green Big Brothers and other Green Shirts keep harping how it's the ONLY solution to traffic problems. What about all the other solutions we can use, which take us out of early 20th century China and into the 21st century?
Take for example the underappreciated Segway. I still think that with some modifications it's the future. Imagine the current Segway but with a strong crash-cell around it to protect from accidents and from the weather. A rudimentary climate control. Auto-pilot.
Bike lanes to be converted to accept these kind of vehicles and provide auto-navigation/driving (untill we perfect true self-driving). Also vehicles similiar to the Renault Twizy but with total encapsulation. All electric, all connected to a central processing grid which routs the vehicles in auto-pilot mode for best traffic dispertion and optimized travel time. Technology for this has existed for over a decade, yet we still debate about promoting steam-age solutions. What's next? Pony lanes? Pulled rickshaws? (a fixture already in many Euro cities)

Edited by Nikolai Petroff on Monday 9th December 16:38

Rawwr

22,722 posts

264 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Strap yourselves in, lads, this could be a bumpy ride.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Bikes bad, segway good?

hmmm, I don't think you'll have too many agreeing with you.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

229 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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If you're going to troll can you please find something witty and original to troll about.

Mastodon2

14,333 posts

195 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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You speak of the prostate, I don't know about that, but intra-scrotal abnormalities are more common in regular cyclists.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

229 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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TheEnd said:
Bikes bad, segway good?

hmmm, I don't think you'll have too many agreeing with you.
You forgot the members of the Segway sub forum.

rohrl

8,984 posts

175 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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In answer to the thread title no, we can't.

Next question please.

curlie467

7,650 posts

231 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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What the fudge is a typewriter?

warp9

1,632 posts

227 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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I'm not surprised you don't like cycling if you carry a suite around with you. If you need a rest, wouldn't a park bench be a better idea?

Nikolai Petroff

Original Poster:

589 posts

163 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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I just think that mass transport has to reflect the society. How advanced it is. Bikes have not really been subjected to any competition yet. I think they should.

rohrl

8,984 posts

175 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Nikolai Petroff said:
I just think that mass transport has to reflect the society. How advanced it is. Bikes have not really been subjected to any competition yet. I think they should.
Bikes have been around longer than the internal combustion engine let alone the Segway. Your move.

Nikolai Petroff

Original Poster:

589 posts

163 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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curlie467 said:
What the fudge is a typewriter?
Something invented after the bike but has already been superseded ;-)

warp9

1,632 posts

227 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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How advanced we are as a society is debatable. However, maybe the reason nothing has challenged the basic premise of the bike, is that it's really the best design there is.

Nikolai Petroff

Original Poster:

589 posts

163 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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rohrl said:
Bikes have been around longer than the internal combustion engine let alone the Segway. Your move.
So has rickets, your move.

rohrl

8,984 posts

175 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Nikolai Petroff said:
rohrl said:
Bikes have been around longer than the internal combustion engine let alone the Segway. Your move.
So has rickets, your move.
There is a demand for bikes. People like bikes. Your move has been disallowed.

Nikolai Petroff

Original Poster:

589 posts

163 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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warp9 said:
How advanced we are as a society is debatable. However, maybe the reason nothing has challenged the basic premise of the bike, is that it's really the best design there is.
I just proposed you better options.

BTW the only reason the Segway didn't take off is because of regulation. You can't use it on the road, sidewalk or bike lane.

Nikolai Petroff

Original Poster:

589 posts

163 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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rohrl said:
There is a demand for bikes. People like bikes. Your move has been disallowed.
SOME people like bikes. Some people also like to have hot wax poured over them by a fat woman in a latex costume.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

229 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Nikolai Petroff said:
Bikes have not really been subjected to any competition yet.
You're trying to mount a serious argument against bikes and come out with that?

Has school finished early for Christmas?

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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rofl I do agree with the first few lines. Less so, the rest of it.

Prepare for a flaming, though. The two wheeled warriors have a sense of humour to match their shorts.


ETA- i.e. nearly non-existant.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

189 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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So basically, the OP is incredibly lazy and thinks whatever meets his short term needs is the future.

I hope my future doesn't have to involve paying for your coronary. I know my present certainly involves moving past miles of stationary cars, even on Sundays, dreading the next time I'm going to have to join that lot. A situation I don't thank you for one bit.

Agree with chrisw666. At least find something original to troll about.