Freelander, yay or ney?
Freelander, yay or ney?
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UrbanLegend

Original Poster:

15,169 posts

264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Got the offer of a LR FL TD4.

It's average condition.

It has the rear prop disconnected, for economy apparently. Could be reconnected by seller if I want.

Engine was replaced & has 35k on now, rest of car has 90k.

EGR has proper bypass fitted.

Sound sensible?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Rear prop disconnected means the viscous coupling is fubared, imo, whatever the seller claims. Niet.

Impasse

15,099 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Krikkit said:
Rear prop disconnected means the viscous coupling is fubared, imo, whatever the seller claims. Niet.
Yep, at 90k it will be past its prime, but they're only a couple of hundred quid to purchase and are held in place by just four bolts. However, whether the IRD has been affected by a seized VC won't be obvious until the new VC and prop are in place.

Do ya feel lucky, do ya? biggrin

Uncle John

5,366 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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UrbanLegend said:
It has the rear prop disconnected, for economy apparently. Could be reconnected by seller if I want.

Engine was replaced & has 35k on now, rest of car has 90k.

EGR has proper bypass fitted.

Sound sensible?
Sounds a bit like old air con just needs a re-gas chestnut!

A.J.M

8,391 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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As said, prop is removed because of duff VCU, only a couple of hundred and the propshaft bearings are £45 or so for GKN makes as they are the best.

What's the age and spec of it?
S,GS,ES. Is likely.
Goes in that order, S is basic, GS has air con and alloys plus a few other things and ES has heated leather and 16s.
Check the rear boot cubby box for water, new boot seal solves any leaks.
Best tyres go on the back to save VCU wear.
Check the crankcase filter has been changed as that usually gets overlooked.

If it's cheap go for it.

UrbanLegend

Original Poster:

15,169 posts

264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Thanks for the advice guys.

Not familiar with the IRD acronym?

Is that the transfer box?

Impasse

15,099 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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UrbanLegend said:
Thanks for the advice guys.

Not familiar with the IRD acronym?

Is that the transfer box?
Essentially yes. Intermediate Reduction Drive. Or in other words a lump of metal containing oily cogs nailed to the side of the regular gearbox and splits the drive to the front wheels and towards the rear prop.

If the VC fails it locks up and doesn't allow any slip. Over time this can put a lot of stress on the IRD and munch bearings, and teeth and whatnot.

JordanTurbo

937 posts

171 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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A.J.M said:
As said, prop is removed because of duff VCU, only a couple of hundred and the propshaft bearings are £45 or so for GKN makes as they are the best.

What's the age and spec of it?
S,GS,ES. Is likely.
Goes in that order, S is basic, GS has air con and alloys plus a few other things and ES has heated leather and 16s.
Check the rear boot cubby box for water, new boot seal solves any leaks.
Best tyres go on the back to save VCU wear.
Check the crankcase filter has been changed as that usually gets overlooked.

If it's cheap go for it.
I'm no expert in the Freelander setup but spent a lot of time working with the 90's Vauxhall viscus 4X4 system and that makes no sense to me.

If you put the best tyres on the back then then the rear axle pair would be turning at a slower rate than the front due to the increased diameter. The VCU would therefore "think" the front wheels are slipping and always be trying to send power to the back which would overheat the fluid and wear the unit out faster.

On Vauxhalls the rule is to always keep the tyres matched front to back including tread depths to keep the speed differential to a minimum. If there was a miss match we would always put the best tyres on the front so that they would wear down faster and bring the set of 4 back into line.

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

188 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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UrbanLegend said:
It has the rear prop disconnected, for economy apparently.
rofl that's the best "needs a re gas" rival I've heard recently.

jesta1865

3,453 posts

239 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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i'd be more concerned that the td4 engine has been replaced, its a bmw unit and is fairly bullet proof.

i recently sold one for £500 which needed the vcu and rear prop sorting, the engine had 95k on but pulled like a train.

the engine being done rings alarm bells for me, i wouldn't personally

DrDeAtH

3,700 posts

262 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Run away from it.... Quickly

Would not touch that car with a bargepole, there are plenty other freelanders about that have been looked after properly. Take your pick.from one of them.

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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never buy a freelander.

dapearson

4,456 posts

254 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Reliability index websites shows land rovers as the most unreliable cars by some margin.

Avoid.

Having said that my in-laws have just spunked £20k on a fairly new freelander and are smitten with it. I'm waiting for the first big bill to hit, at which point i'll shout "i told you so" as loudly as i can. They normally ask my advice and i help them with car shopping and they've done alright, but this time they ignored my advice.

UrbanLegend

Original Poster:

15,169 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Thanks folks.

I've decided that I'd rather look for either a CRV or a RAV4.

Liokault

2,837 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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jamoor said:
never buy a freelander.
This

UrbanLegend

Original Poster:

15,169 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Liokault said:
jamoor said:
never buy a freelander.
This
They're not that bad, much better than people suggest tbh.

We've owned a 1.8 petrol a few years ago and it was very good; it had the usual HGF at 32k miles but was fixed under warranty and never gave any issues again.

Nothing else went wrong at all in 4 years or so of ownership.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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jesta1865 said:
i'd be more concerned that the td4 engine has been replaced, its a bmw unit and is fairly bullet proof.
the engine being done rings alarm bells for me, i wouldn't personally
I don't see why a replacement engine 4+ years ago is a big issue?

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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What advantages does a freelander have over a CR-V/Rav4 anyway?

UrbanLegend

Original Poster:

15,169 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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jamoor said:
What advantages does a freelander have over a CR-V/Rav4 anyway?
Errr, if I think of something I'll get back to you smile

The LR FL is quite cheap to fix but you fix it more often than the other two.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

190 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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Liokault said:
jamoor said:
never buy a freelander.
This

Even safer advice, never buy anything with rover in the name!