Buying a car with retained private plate
Discussion
Hi,
I'm buying a car privately which I hope to collect tomorrow.
Seller has been doing various bits since we made a deal last week.
The one thing that hasn't happenned is the switch of private plate onto standard.
He has applied, and has been to local office but has been told with Christmas shutdown there are delays.
As I understand it, once it's processed they will send retenion certificate, new plates, updated MOT and tax to the seller.
He has agreed to post these on to me.
To complicate things he is putting a fresh MOT on although it has 6 months remaining. The MOT will have the private reg on the certificate.
Are there any potential problems or things I need to be wary of? I've considered notifiing the insures of the plate change.
Thanks
I'm buying a car privately which I hope to collect tomorrow.
Seller has been doing various bits since we made a deal last week.
The one thing that hasn't happenned is the switch of private plate onto standard.
He has applied, and has been to local office but has been told with Christmas shutdown there are delays.
As I understand it, once it's processed they will send retenion certificate, new plates, updated MOT and tax to the seller.
He has agreed to post these on to me.
To complicate things he is putting a fresh MOT on although it has 6 months remaining. The MOT will have the private reg on the certificate.
Are there any potential problems or things I need to be wary of? I've considered notifiing the insures of the plate change.
Thanks
Rick101 said:
Yes but surely they will go to the seller as the applied for retention well before the V5 will go in.
The new MOT will have the old reg on despite there being an newly issued MOT with the new reg on, floating around which exprires in 6 months.
Yes, they will go back to the registered keeper, who won't be you yet.The new MOT will have the old reg on despite there being an newly issued MOT with the new reg on, floating around which exprires in 6 months.
Re the MOT, it will depend on how far through the process the application is when the car is MOT'd. DVLA picks up the computerised certificate, so if he has posted it this morning, and MOT'd it this afternoon, you'll get back a new certificate in the new reg number dated a year from today.
Yes - it seems the seller has made, in the words of James May, an utter cock of the whole thing. He should have taken the plate off before selling, and certainly before re-MOTing the bloody thing.
You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
If the seller has applied to change the plate over then the v5 won't be present as you have to send this off with the application to change the plate. Therefore you won't be able to fill in the v5 when you pick the car up.
Regarding the MOT don't worry about the car being tested with its current plate, When the DVLA turn things around they will issue a new MOT certificate with the new reg on.
Changing the plates is a simple affair but it does take time. Why sellers don't sort it out before they decide to sell is beyond me.
The alternative is if he hasn't applied to change the plate then just do the transaction as normal then get the v5 back in your name with his plate on then do the transfer. It will require him to trust you not to do one with the plate though. Once the plate is assigned to the car it belongs to the car not to any individual person, only when it is on retention does the plate belong to any one in particular.
Regarding the MOT don't worry about the car being tested with its current plate, When the DVLA turn things around they will issue a new MOT certificate with the new reg on.
Changing the plates is a simple affair but it does take time. Why sellers don't sort it out before they decide to sell is beyond me.
The alternative is if he hasn't applied to change the plate then just do the transaction as normal then get the v5 back in your name with his plate on then do the transfer. It will require him to trust you not to do one with the plate though. Once the plate is assigned to the car it belongs to the car not to any individual person, only when it is on retention does the plate belong to any one in particular.
Er Crikey. Bit harsh on the seller.
To be fair he seems a top bloke. Done everything he said he would. I was quick on the purchase as it's a great buy. He had already submitted the plate change by the time I viewed. Delay is due to dvla Christmas hours.
He did the submission by post but as he hasn't had the reply yet did make the trip to his local dvla office who advised they couldn't do it and it had gone to Swansea.
It has plenty of Mot but I wanted a fresh one as part of the deal, not really that fussed for the certificate, just the fact it's fit to pass.
Worst case I'll re Mot it when I get the new plate arranged.
Was just a bit concerned about the paperwork side of things as not done this before.
To be fair he seems a top bloke. Done everything he said he would. I was quick on the purchase as it's a great buy. He had already submitted the plate change by the time I viewed. Delay is due to dvla Christmas hours.
He did the submission by post but as he hasn't had the reply yet did make the trip to his local dvla office who advised they couldn't do it and it had gone to Swansea.
It has plenty of Mot but I wanted a fresh one as part of the deal, not really that fussed for the certificate, just the fact it's fit to pass.
Worst case I'll re Mot it when I get the new plate arranged.
Was just a bit concerned about the paperwork side of things as not done this before.
Edited by Rick101 on Wednesday 11th December 22:20
littleredrooster said:
Yes - it seems the seller has made, in the words of James May, an utter cock of the whole thing. He should have taken the plate off before selling, and certainly before re-MOTing the bloody thing.
You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
You obviously do not have a clue what you are talking about.You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
Mashedpotatoes said:
littleredrooster said:
Yes - it seems the seller has made, in the words of James May, an utter cock of the whole thing. He should have taken the plate off before selling, and certainly before re-MOTing the bloody thing.
You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
You obviously do not have a clue what you are talking about.You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
So your happy to purchase a car without the V5 logbook.
All you will have is a set of keys, a car which may even not belong to the seller, and a handwritten receipt.
Dear, dear, dear.
If it goes wrong and the bailiffs turn up at your door to repossess, then wave bye bye to the car and your money.
Bye bye car bye bye money
Wait for the logbook or buy something else, anyone who is important enough to posess a private plate knows the rules. They've already done it once to put the plate on the car.
Seriously if someone advertised a car as log book, mot in post would you even bother to go see it
Bob
All you will have is a set of keys, a car which may even not belong to the seller, and a handwritten receipt.
Dear, dear, dear.
If it goes wrong and the bailiffs turn up at your door to repossess, then wave bye bye to the car and your money.
Bye bye car bye bye money
Wait for the logbook or buy something else, anyone who is important enough to posess a private plate knows the rules. They've already done it once to put the plate on the car.
Seriously if someone advertised a car as log book, mot in post would you even bother to go see it
Bob
Mashedpotatoes said:
littleredrooster said:
Yes - it seems the seller has made, in the words of James May, an utter cock of the whole thing. He should have taken the plate off before selling, and certainly before re-MOTing the bloody thing.
You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
You obviously do not have a clue what you are talking about.You are going to end up with a car with the wrong registration, an MOT that has to be ratified by DVLA and reissued, and extra admin costs by your insurance company for changing the registration of your new car.
Utter cock.
Why would you buy a car without the V5 present?
How could the change of RK be notified at the point of sale?
When the DVLA process the change, what guarantee would you want from the seller that they would inform you at the appropriate time to change the registration? What if they failed to tell you?
Why would you insure the car under its 'old' registration, only to have to pay a further fee to change it shortly thereafter?
Why would you want the hassle of having to get the MOT re-issued with the correct number 12 weeks after buying the car?
You "obviously" haven't thought this through, have you?
bob bobbleton said:
So your happy to purchase a car without the V5 logbook.
All you will have is a set of keys, a car which may even not belong to the seller, and a handwritten receipt.
Dear, dear, dear.
If it goes wrong and the bailiffs turn up at your door to repossess, then wave bye bye to the car and your money.
Bye bye car bye bye money
Wait for the logbook or buy something else, anyone who is important enough to posess a private plate knows the rules. They've already done it once to put the plate on the car.
Seriously if someone advertised a car as log book, mot in post would you even bother to go see it
Bob
The log book is not proof of ownership...All you will have is a set of keys, a car which may even not belong to the seller, and a handwritten receipt.
Dear, dear, dear.
If it goes wrong and the bailiffs turn up at your door to repossess, then wave bye bye to the car and your money.
Bye bye car bye bye money
Wait for the logbook or buy something else, anyone who is important enough to posess a private plate knows the rules. They've already done it once to put the plate on the car.
Seriously if someone advertised a car as log book, mot in post would you even bother to go see it
Bob
Rick101 said:
f
k me i've opened a can of worms here.
Tell you what chaps, forget I asked. Can't belive how arsey some people can get over a simple thing.
It's immaterial really anyway as I've already paid the guy in full.
Not sure why the arsey types have come out but ignore them, they are talking bk me i've opened a can of worms here. Tell you what chaps, forget I asked. Can't belive how arsey some people can get over a simple thing.
It's immaterial really anyway as I've already paid the guy in full.
Edited by Rick101 on Thursday 12th December 05:10
ks. It's a simple plate transfer and there are no issues for you. The seller is the one who has the most to lose. You will get new plates and documents that at worse are marked as amended. I've been on both sides of the fence and there is no issue. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff