E46 running issues
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the_lone_wolf

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2,622 posts

215 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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Hi all

Just picked up a wee 2003 316ti for the missus to run around in, having an issue with the car - seemingly randomly the car becomes very jumpy when driving, surging then falling back, very annoying when trying to pull away smoothly..

Anyway, in addition to this the car is revving itself when stationary and at idle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyh0w6Lz4mY

Just a quick vid I took today

Likely causes could be the MAF sensor, air leak maybe? I think the E46 has an idle control valve in there somewhere too

Has anybody had the same issue with their BMW? Or with another car?

HustleRussell

26,500 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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I agree with your diagnosis. A friend had this on his E36 318ti and it was caused by a split intake hose.

the_lone_wolf

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Thursday 12th December 2013
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HustleRussell said:
A friend had this on his E36 318ti and it was caused by a split intake hose.
Thanks for that, tomorrow I'll get in there with a lamp and see if I can sport anything...

defblade

8,054 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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Have a quick google of CVV failure.

My car did the same as yours a couple of times - when it was driving as well as stationary; took it for a damn good run (after panicking about the price and hassle of changing/deleting it) to heat everything up and burn it through properly and, touch wood, no problems since.

the_lone_wolf

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Thursday 12th December 2013
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defblade said:
Have a quick google of CVV failure.
Thanks

I have the idle issue, but none of the other symptoms of CVV failure just yet - I'll check the crankcase pressure just in case but right now I'm hoping it's just a split pipe somewhere, the car is low mileage for it's age so its not been used much...

yorkshireegg

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164 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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I'm guessing it's the m43 engine? If so, it sounds like an air leak as has been suggested. Make sure you check the hose that goes from the back of the MAF sensor, under the top part of the intake manifold, to the fuel injector rail. Very similar symptoms to my e36 and that was the issue.

the_lone_wolf

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Thursday 12th December 2013
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yorkshireegg said:
I'm guessing it's the m43 engine?
If my internet research is correct it's the N42(B18) engine...

the_lone_wolf

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Thursday 19th December 2013
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Well, I hate threads that just trail out without a conclusion so here we go...

My Volvo is off the road at the moment and without suspension at the front so I had to take the BMW to London in the end...

Car behaved impeccably for the entire ~250 miles, no hint of the issue again

Might just chalk it up to it sitting on the dealer's forecourt for a while and just needing a good run to blast the cobwebs...

If it comes back I'll investigate further...

*Al*

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251 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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the_lone_wolf said:
Well, I hate threads that just trail out without a conclusion so here we go...

My Volvo is off the road at the moment and without suspension at the front so I had to take the BMW to London in the end...

Car behaved impeccably for the entire ~250 miles, no hint of the issue again

Might just chalk it up to it sitting on the dealer's forecourt for a while and just needing a good run to blast the cobwebs...

If it comes back I'll investigate further...
Ah the Italian 'tune up', good news then.

the_lone_wolf

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Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Bizarre

Nipped to the next town this morning and to the local stores this afternoon

The same issue cropped up again, but only on the journey to the store this afternoon, once stopped and restarted in the car park it was fine and ten minutes later it was fine on the drove home

Very odd, it's accompanied by a very disconcerting surge and stall while driving, very much like lack of fuel... Hopefully the missus won't get a fright being a new driver!!

Esseesse

9,027 posts

237 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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the_lone_wolf said:
Bizarre

Nipped to the next town this morning and to the local stores this afternoon

The same issue cropped up again, but only on the journey to the store this afternoon, once stopped and restarted in the car park it was fine and ten minutes later it was fine on the drove home

Very odd, it's accompanied by a very disconcerting surge and stall while driving, very much like lack of fuel... Hopefully the missus won't get a fright being a new driver!!
I had an Alfa GTV with very occasional similar symptoms. A couple of times the engine light (IIRC emissions light) on the dash would come on and I'd get rough running... pull over and restart the engine and all was fine. Once it was idling at 2000rpm+ (this was a lovely Arese V6!). The next day it was fine and it never happened again.

Always thought the lambda sensor might be a bit dirty, but it didn't happen often enough to bother me.