Where have all the NSL's gone?
Discussion
I spend a lot of time on the road and have already noticed many of the roads I know well becoming 50 or 40mph despite the fact that there is hardly an abundance of accidents on them. I'm also noticing more and more when in other areas and using GPS that the road I'm on is a 40 or sometimes a 50mph when sat Nav still thinks its an NSL so its clearly a national trend and not just local.
Is the NSL B and A road dying?
Is the NSL B and A road dying?
I live in Oxon and have also noticed this worrying trend. There are very few NSL roads left. Very annoying as most of them can easily be safely travelled on at 60 unless you are a complete moron.
Whoops. I forgot that in this day and age the rule of thumb means rule of the thickest dumbest t
t that has ever existed.
Unfortunately there are many idiots out there who are incapable of driving above 40 without crashing and it is their stupidity which becomes the benchmark by which we are all judged and which creates the rules by which we all must live.
Idiocy is rewarded these days.
Whoops. I forgot that in this day and age the rule of thumb means rule of the thickest dumbest t
t that has ever existed.Unfortunately there are many idiots out there who are incapable of driving above 40 without crashing and it is their stupidity which becomes the benchmark by which we are all judged and which creates the rules by which we all must live.
Idiocy is rewarded these days.
bobbo89 said:
Round my way roads are becoming a confusing mess of different speed limits along their full length changing between 40's, 50's and NSL's.
The cynic in me is seeing a link between increasing numbers of roads with varying speed limits, and the increasing number of "Road Safety Partnership" camera vans...There's a road near me that for the last 20 years has been a 40. It's got no houses/schools etc on - not even any shops. It bypasses the town centre. Last year, the council removed the "40" signs, so it's now a "30". Not a week goes by without one of the yellow vans parked up in a layby - normally hidden behind a truck. Apparently, despite there never having been any serious accidents on there, it's now "safer and more environmentally friendly".
What the speed limit setters don't seem to realise is that lowering speed limits increases traffic density, as it takes each vehicle longer to get from point A to point B, but there are still the same number of vehicles trying to do so.
Ironic, as I am sure a lot of people complaining about a "speeding problem" along their road are actually seeing an increase in traffic.
Ironic, as I am sure a lot of people complaining about a "speeding problem" along their road are actually seeing an increase in traffic.
We have a dual carriageway "ring road". The purpose of which, i presume, was to allow a large volume of cars to quickly and efficiently circumnavigate our town centre. For over 25years, it was a 60mph road.
Last year, unfortunately, a young girl, attempted to cross the road, by hopping over the crash barriers, rather than use the bridge and underpass provided (and within 100m of where she crossed). She was hit by a lorry and killed.
The road has now been reduced to a blanket 40mph.
In todays society, apparently we must all pay for one persons stupidity and impatience.
Last year, unfortunately, a young girl, attempted to cross the road, by hopping over the crash barriers, rather than use the bridge and underpass provided (and within 100m of where she crossed). She was hit by a lorry and killed.
The road has now been reduced to a blanket 40mph.
In todays society, apparently we must all pay for one persons stupidity and impatience.
Yup most of our A roads now have the red five ohs and are frequently visited by the counties safety camera vans, daft thing is the van often sits where it's perfectly safe to go much faster than fifty yet other bits of road where thirty would be pushing it never see a van, anyone would think there's sort of conspiracy going on.
Johnnytheboy said:
What the speed limit setters don't seem to realise is that lowering speed limits increases traffic density, as it takes each vehicle longer to get from point A to point B, but there are still the same number of vehicles trying to do so.
Not true. The maximum rate of flow on any main road is about 50 mph.What you have overlooked is that when traffic moves faster the gaps between vehicles increase to such an extent that the number of vehicles passing any given point actually reduces. This is due, not least, to the laws of physics and their effect on stopping distances.
Here in Wiltshire the NSL is becoming an endangered species.
Roads which have been NSL for ever without incident are suddenly becoming 40 or 50.
And then we had this for a few weeks before it was finally reduced to 30.
Previously it had been NSL.
Since then the NSL boundary has been moved back 2 miles with a 50 limit for the final mile.
Roads which have been NSL for ever without incident are suddenly becoming 40 or 50.
And then we had this for a few weeks before it was finally reduced to 30.
Previously it had been NSL.
Since then the NSL boundary has been moved back 2 miles with a 50 limit for the final mile.
Same in Lincs. Many major routes reduced to 50 or even 40, but the back roads which often run parallel are still NSL. These are often barely the width of two cars with all sorts of suprises on them. However a cynic might think that because there is no room for the safety camera vans, they are all left at 60.
Very few left in Warwickshire now, most have been reduced to 50.
One road in my area has been brought down from a 50 to 40 after a triple fatal last year. The investigation showed the driver had been doing in excess of 80mph on a left-hand bend; he also had alcohol in his system. Quite how a 10mph reduction in the speed limit would've helped I don't know.
As has already been mentioned the limits have to cater for the lowest common denominator which unfortunately impacts on the rest of us who can conduct ourselves sensibly.
One road in my area has been brought down from a 50 to 40 after a triple fatal last year. The investigation showed the driver had been doing in excess of 80mph on a left-hand bend; he also had alcohol in his system. Quite how a 10mph reduction in the speed limit would've helped I don't know.
As has already been mentioned the limits have to cater for the lowest common denominator which unfortunately impacts on the rest of us who can conduct ourselves sensibly.
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