Re-mapping to give lower emmissions and less power
Re-mapping to give lower emmissions and less power
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crostonian

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2,427 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Now that the government is making it more difficult for diesel tuning by bringing DPF checks into the MOT with the reasoning that modified cars should be paying more VED and are worse for the environment blah blah blah why not re-map a car to give less power and lower C02 emmissions??

Having carried out the work and had it tested/certified at a VOSA test site the taxation class of the car could be reclassified and it would be better for our lovely environment.

I realise this makes too much sense to ever happen due to the loss in VED revenue to the government but it would help people with low value band L cars to keep them on the road and keep the resale values sensible.

J4CKO

46,918 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Just buy a smaller car.

Would be a minefield.

T16OLE

2,965 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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You could re-map it properly then too

varsas

4,076 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Assuming you are talking about modern cars...

Modern cars are already mapped for emissions. Short of limiting the fly-by-wire throttle I can't see how you'd make them better. You could make them different, e.g. more fuel would lead to less Co2 but more Co and HC but overall a petrol engine has the lowest overall emissions when it's running stociometric mixtures, and they already aim for that. Even if you did decide to change something you can't because the cat will stop working. Maybe you could put in a more aggressive timing curve?

There is scope for tuning older cars (especially those with carbs) but generally you'll sacrifice power for emissions/economy unless something is out-of-tune or damaged.

V88Dicky

7,373 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Just buy a pre '73 car, and if you wish, slot in a brand new LSX 454.

No VED, and no problem at MOT emission testing.

Probably.




Sod it, if it fits, stick a Chevy 572 in it........

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GroundEffect

13,864 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Engine calibrations in new cars are designed to be the best compromise between drivability, performance, fuel economy and CO2/NOx...and they are always a trade-off between all of them to get the best compromise or match program requirements.

You could probably drop the CO2/NOx emissions by upping EGR usage or reducing fueling but you'd end up with a horrible car to drive or with no performance at all.


crostonian

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2,427 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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What if it was just to drop it by one or two units so it fell into the lower VED band, surely that wouldn't make a car perform noticeably different?

Session8

145 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Could you not just run two maps then, one for MOT/VOSA checks to get the lower taxation and the other for 99.9% of the time?;)

HustleRussell

26,567 posts

190 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Manufacturers already do this from the factory to an extent, often the lower output models have a lot in common with the higher output ones but are detuned to bring them into the lower VED band. e.g. when I got my TDCI 130 Mondeo, there was a 115 version available which had exactly the same engine but some changes to ancilliaries, tuning etc.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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crostonian said:
What if it was just to drop it by one or two units so it fell into the lower VED band, surely that wouldn't make a car perform noticeably different?
The OEM would have done it then, wouldn't they? wink

crostonian

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2,427 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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GroundEffect said:
The OEM would have done it then, wouldn't they? wink
No because the Band L VED rate was introduced retrospectively so many 2006 and 2007 cars come in at just over the limit.