All 4 wheels robbed on my car, happy christmas!
All 4 wheels robbed on my car, happy christmas!
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Maverick007

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128 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Bunch of theiving b******s.

Came downstairs this morning to find my 3 month old BMW convertible without any wheels, cheers for that.

They've done a professional job, 2 jacks on one side, 2 bricks on the other.

I guess they have the tools for so called locking wheel nuts?

My main worry is that when i get the new ones on, they'll come back and do it again. Any sugestions on best deterrants for this sort of thing or nothing you can do?


Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Nasty business. Not hard to get around locking wheel nuts though - bash an impact socket over the top and they'll soon come off... I saw an Audi RS5 the other day which had been left on 2 stones one side and its brake discs on the other... Nasty.

Not much you can do to stop them either, consider fitting CCTV?

eybic

9,212 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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That's st. I guess they were BMW locking wheel nuts? There aren't that many combinations so they will probably have every one.

The only suggestion I can make is to get a couple of sets of aftermarket locking wheelnuts and to put 2 lockers on each wheel.

conanius

955 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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I was told by a friend in the police some 'chaps' were just taking the other nuts off and dropping the car to the deck on the 1 locker and it sheered off - probably at the risk of damaging the wheel.

I guess two lockers mitigate that problem at the expense of your time and hassle !

panholio

1,109 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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What a nightmare. I wrongly thought alloys didn't get nicked a lot these days. I guess wheels are worth a lot. They'll be on the 'bay in no time. I'd keep an eye out.

Did they leeave the jacks and bricks behind? I guess it is better than it just being sat on the brake discs. Is there much other damage?

I'd look at CCTV, security lights etc. Was the car on your driveway?

Steve vRS

5,397 posts

271 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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eybic said:
The only suggestion I can make is to get a couple of sets of aftermarket locking wheelnuts and to put 2 lockers on each wheel.
That's bad luck and feel sorry for you.

I would look at different locking wheel nuts but stick to one per wheel. Locking nuts should not be tightened to the same torque as standard nuts, so having 2 per wheel might leave you vulnerable - although I stand to be corrected!

Steve

Maverick007

Original Poster:

128 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Yes i think those are the only 2 options really i guess.

Then when they can't get the wheels off easily, they'll prob run a scredriver down the side of the car to p**s me off even more!

Thanks guys.

Hopefully they were stolen to order and they won't be back!

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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It may sell have been for the tyres as much as the wheels.
4 new sporty tyres aren't cheap.

Chances are they weren't sold on, they have just been fitted to the thieves car.

Galileo

3,147 posts

248 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Odd that the alarm didn't go off with all that movement? You might want to make sure it's working properly. If it isn't then you might have some recourse with BMW.

Just a thought.

Maverick007

Original Poster:

128 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Yes it was on the driveway and just normal BMW locking nuts.

Luckily no other damage to the car, they did a professional job thankfully (if that's the right word!)

It wouldn't have been so bad if the tyres needed changing or the alloys were scuffed but it's only done 1500 miles!

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

222 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Steve vRS said:
Locking nuts should not be tightened to the same torque as standard nuts,

Steve
WHAT??? eek

it's a wheel nut, all wheel nuts should be tightened to the same torque, otherwise you are going to stress the wheel as it will be clamped tighter round the remaining nuts, whilst I accept locking nuts can be difficult to remove, I would never under-tighten them!!!

ETA - OP, this sucks, double locking nuts would be good but might cause you problems in the future (two locking nut adapters to loose etc

Maverick007

Original Poster:

128 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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I did wonder about the alarm actually but maube they just did it without much movement so didn't trigger anything.


tehguy

178 posts

161 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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4 lockers on each wheel. You will never stop a determined thief, but you can damn well slow them down

Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Maverick007 said:
I did wonder about the alarm actually but maube they just did it without much movement so didn't trigger anything.
I had the wheels stolen of a car about 15 years ago and they didn't set the alarm off. They used a couple of bricks and a scaffold pole to lever car up gently without setting the alarm off.


TwistingMyMelon

6,516 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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As soon as I read the title I thought bet its a BMW

I think there are circa only 10 types of BMW wheel lock nut and its pretty easy to get all they keys.

Alloys and tyres are easy to sell on and worth decent money (look at ebay)

When you get new wheels, get a decent 3rd party locking nut (they still arent great) .

Can OEM BMW car alarms have their sensitivity increased to account for being jacked? WOuld be worth doing that if poss

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
Steve vRS said:
Locking nuts should not be tightened to the same torque as standard nuts,

Steve
WHAT??? eek

it's a wheel nut, all wheel nuts should be tightened to the same torque, otherwise you are going to stress the wheel as it will be clamped tighter round the remaining nuts, whilst I accept locking nuts can be difficult to remove, I would never under-tighten them!!!

ETA - OP, this sucks, double locking nuts would be good but might cause you problems in the future (two locking nut adapters to loose etc
Spot on Rich. All the bolts must be torqued up to the manufacturer's spec, locking or not. That doesn't mean they should be buzzed up with an impact gun to 400+Nm, but following the right specs.

Maverick007

Original Poster:

128 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Can anyone suggest somewhere to get some aftermarket locking wheel nuts or just google it??

kiethton

14,651 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Ebay

worsy

6,606 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Maverick007 said:
Can anyone suggest somewhere to get some aftermarket locking wheel nuts or just google it??
Assume they are bolts rather than nuts on a BMW.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/wheel-nu...

or Halfords, Motor Mania, any Motor Factors should sell them too. Or as the previous poster says, Ebay.

eybic

9,212 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Dont get Trilok (I think it is) as the receptacles for the key is 3 holes in the bolt which stretch quite easily. I've used McGard for years and had no problems