206 gti hdi
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cologne2792

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2,151 posts

156 months

Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Has anyone had any experience(s) with these - good or bad ?

Shinobi

5,129 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Don't think they exist mate, they do a 1.6hdi which is meant to be very good. I had a 2.0 GTi which was fantastic tuna dn the GTi 180 is meant to be better again.

AlexRS2782

8,524 posts

243 months

Sunday 22nd December 2013
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The HDI version of the 206 GTI does indeed exist.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/first-drives/p...

cologne2792

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2,151 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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It's the 195 lb ft in a 1 tonne hatchback and 60+Mpg that appeals. Perhaps I should have just asked if anyone had any experience with 1.6 hdi and whether or not it's reputation for eating turbo's is justified ?

C.A.R.

3,993 posts

218 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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When I looked into this about 18 months ago and signed up to the relevant forums to ask questions, the resounding opinion was to avoid at all cost - which was concerning.

Ultimately the 206 was slightly too small so I ended up with an older but bigger 306.

If you want a Diesel 206 the consensus is to stick with the bigger 2.0 HDi engine (DW10). It's heavier, but only slightly worse on fuel and doesn't carry half the problems which come about with the 1.6.

If you can get a 1.6 HDi GTi with a warranty then go for it, but just be aware of the common problems. Lots of anti-pollution gubbins on them can go very wrong and become very expensive - on what would otherwise be a very nice little car.

Never good when an 'owners club' tells you to steer clear - read into that what you like!

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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My wife just sold her 02 1.4hdi sadly. GTi it certainly wasn't! It did do 96000 trouble free miles, regularly hit 60mpg and never let us down. She bought it at 6 months old for £5600 and it just went for £900. Cheap motoring! Love em or hate em, hers was a real gem.

cologne2792

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2,151 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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That's good advice C.A.R. thank you.

My father in law has a 1.4 hdi that he bought with 7k on the clock and is now just over 260k - used it for his 700 mile a week commute. Started off at 68 mpg (he leaves at 5:00am and ambles) and by the 250k mark was averaging 81 mpg ! Apart from regular servicing nothing broke - ecu shut down at around 80k and car had to be recovered - turned it off and on again and problem resolved - Apparently now just had a new drive shaft.
I take it the 1.4, like the 2.0, isn't jammed full of anti- pollution kit and that the 1.6, like the 2.2, is ?

Sensibleboy

1,168 posts

155 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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These early 1.6 HDi engines can be trouble. I do believe the trade refer to them as being chocolate - when fitted into various Peugeots, Citroens and Fords.

Be careful when buying one. Very regular servicing will give more confidence in its likely reliability.

I think the current production engine might be an 8 valve which is more reliable.

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

159 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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Not a great PSA group fan.

I stil struggle to associate GTi & diesel in the same sentance.

cologne2792

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2,151 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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HaloGen8 said:
Not a great PSA group fan.

I stil struggle to associate GTi & diesel in the same sentance.
I hear you on the second part. IT's figures are close to the 1.6 205 gti but with much better mid-range - not a screamer though.
We've had a over a dozen PSA powered idi and hdi and all have been exceedingly reliable - except the current C5 that keeps sulking.
150 - 300,000 miles with no major issues.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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cologne2792 said:
That's good advice C.A.R. thank you.

My father in law has a 1.4 hdi that he bought with 7k on the clock and is now just over 260k - used it for his 700 mile a week commute. Started off at 68 mpg (he leaves at 5:00am and ambles) and by the 250k mark was averaging 81 mpg ! Apart from regular servicing nothing broke - ecu shut down at around 80k and car had to be recovered - turned it off and on again and problem resolved - Apparently now just had a new drive shaft.
I take it the 1.4, like the 2.0, isn't jammed full of anti- pollution kit and that the 1.6, like the 2.2, is ?

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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cologne2792 said:
That's good advice C.A.R. thank you.

My father in law has a 1.4 hdi that he bought with 7k on the clock and is now just over 260k - used it for his 700 mile a week commute. Started off at 68 mpg (he leaves at 5:00am and ambles) and by the 250k mark was averaging 81 mpg ! Apart from regular servicing nothing broke - ecu shut down at around 80k and car had to be recovered - turned it off and on again and problem resolved - Apparently now just had a new drive shaft.
I take it the 1.4, like the 2.0, isn't jammed full of anti- pollution kit and that the 1.6, like the 2.2, is ?

Kitchski

6,551 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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As mentioned the DW10 is the one to go for, and a remap from www.hdi-tuning.co.uk adds more speed and LESS fuel.
Wouldn't touch a 1.4 or 1.6HDi with anyone else's, let alone mine.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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That's good miles mentioned above for a little diesel. My wife's 02 didn't have DPF or any of that nonsense. Isn't it down to the year more than the engine?

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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That's good miles mentioned above for a little diesel. My wife's 02 didn't have DPF or any of that nonsense. Isn't it down to the year more than the engine?

cj2013

1,409 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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HaloGen8 said:
Not a great PSA group fan.

I stil struggle to associate GTi & diesel in the same sentance.
IMO PSA are the kings of fun diesel cars (or similar GTi style cars).

Seen it before with the XUD's, specifically the DTurbo and the HDi's

r11co

6,244 posts

260 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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When we had a 206SW dTurbo I intentionally sought out the 2.0 version despite it being lower powered compared to the 1.6. Peugeot were just starting to get to grips with DPFs with the introduction of the 1.6 to the 206 range and all the teething problems seem to have settled on that model.

The 2.0 was unencumbered, unburstable and quite nippy with a bit of tuning.

Now, if they'd put the 2.0 16v 136 HDi engine from the 307 in there that would have been a whole lot more interesting....

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

278 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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If you are considering a 206 of any flavour I hope you haven't got big feet, catching the brake at the same time as you go for the clutch to change up can lead to embarrassment on a motorway slip road. frown

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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cologne2792 said:
I hear you on the second part. IT's figures are close to the 1.6 205 gti but with much better mid-range
Similar power, but it weighs 230 kg more and with a very numb drive by comparison. The 206 is a pretty poor car by almost any measure apart from purchase price these days.

cologne2792

Original Poster:

2,151 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd December 2013
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IanMorewood said:
If you are considering a 206 of any flavour I hope you haven't got big feet, catching the brake at the same time as you go for the clutch to change up can lead to embarrassment on a motorway slip road. frown
I'm 6' 4" with size 11 feet and I'd read about the pedal issue and the awful driving position - Weirdly, I fit just fine, can work the pedals - and find the driving position excellent, couldn't fit in 205 though...