Should some 'professional drivers' know better?
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Hi everyone I've followed PH for a while but this is my first post...
Yesterday morning I was overtaken by a newish Mini Cooper on an uphill blind bend. If the oncoming Transit had been
about 10 seconds later there would've been a very big mess. Thing is though, the Mini was a driving school car!!
About 5 minutes later I saw the car again, middle aged bloke at the wheel, queueing to go into Morrison's car park so
I doubt it had been stolen (the thought had crossed my mind). Anyone seen worse? There must be 1000's!
Yesterday morning I was overtaken by a newish Mini Cooper on an uphill blind bend. If the oncoming Transit had been
about 10 seconds later there would've been a very big mess. Thing is though, the Mini was a driving school car!!
About 5 minutes later I saw the car again, middle aged bloke at the wheel, queueing to go into Morrison's car park so
I doubt it had been stolen (the thought had crossed my mind). Anyone seen worse? There must be 1000's!
I trust you obeyed HC rule 168:>>168
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.<<
Everyday!!!!
Early morning, wet, dark coming into a left hand bend I had a near brush with an articulated lorry coming towards me, the wet tyre tracks showed the trailer was on my side of the road as he rounded the bend, had I left 2-3 secs earlier this morning, how knows, sometimes best not to think to much about it.
Early morning, wet, dark coming into a left hand bend I had a near brush with an articulated lorry coming towards me, the wet tyre tracks showed the trailer was on my side of the road as he rounded the bend, had I left 2-3 secs earlier this morning, how knows, sometimes best not to think to much about it.
bomma220 said:
If the oncoming Transit had been
about 10 seconds later there would've been a very big mess.
10 seconds is actually quite a long time, at 30mph you will travel around 450ft, not exactly close IMO you really need to find something of more concern to worry about.about 10 seconds later there would've been a very big mess.
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shovelheadrob said:
10 seconds is actually quite a long time, at 30mph you will travel around 450ft, not exactly close IMO you really need to find something of more concern to worry about.
1. I did say ABOUT 10 seconds - it could have been 7.803
2. Where did 30mph come from? Their closing speed was probably nearer 90mph.
3. The point is that the Mini driver couldn't possibly have known the Transit was even there.
4. I gave up worrying during the Falklands war!
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1. I did say ABOUT 10 seconds - it could have been 7.803
2. Where did 30mph come from? Their closing speed was probably nearer 90mph.
3. The point is that the Mini driver couldn't possibly have known the Transit was even there.
4. I gave up worrying during the Falklands war!
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bomma220 said:
shovelheadrob said:
10 seconds is actually quite a long time, at 30mph you will travel around 450ft, not exactly close IMO you really need to find something of more concern to worry about.
1. I did say ABOUT 10 seconds - it could have been 7.803
2. Where did 30mph come from? Their closing speed was probably nearer 90mph.
3. The point is that the Mini driver couldn't possibly have known the Transit was even there.
4. I gave up worrying during the Falklands war!
Welcome to PH
1. I did say ABOUT 10 seconds - it could have been 7.803
2. Where did 30mph come from? Their closing speed was probably nearer 90mph.
3. The point is that the Mini driver couldn't possibly have known the Transit was even there.
4. I gave up worrying during the Falklands war!
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2. No one mentioned 30mph I just used that as an example.
3. Where do you mention that the Mini driver couldn't have known the Transit was there?
4. Apparently not.
shovelheadrob said:
3. Where do you mention that the Mini driver couldn't have known the Transit was there?
I thought that was sort of implied when he described it as an "uphill blind bend".The very definition of a blind bend IMO is a bend that you cannot see around in order to determine if the road is clear.
I saw a driving school fiesta the other day being driver, as I thought by a learner, speed all over the place just general not goodness, I assumed that it was a leaner, and a newish one at that, only to pass and see it was the instructor!
Some might say its a placebo effect, seeing a learner car and assuming its being driven poorly, but I've often seen very well driven learner cars and assumed it was an instructor only to see a 17 year old in the drivers seat.
Some might say its a placebo effect, seeing a learner car and assuming its being driven poorly, but I've often seen very well driven learner cars and assumed it was an instructor only to see a 17 year old in the drivers seat.
Blue Oval84 said:
shovelheadrob said:
3. Where do you mention that the Mini driver couldn't have known the Transit was there?
I thought that was sort of implied when he described it as an "uphill blind bend".The very definition of a blind bend IMO is a bend that you cannot see around in order to determine if the road is clear.
Er, I think I'd expect a driving instructor not to perform an overtake on a blind uphill bend in a manner inferred by the OP. "In a rush to queue into Morrisons" probably wouldn't cut it as an explanation for me.
All in all on any given day I would expect an instructor to be "better" than the merely historically instructed.
All in all on any given day I would expect an instructor to be "better" than the merely historically instructed.
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