Traffic caused by shopping
Discussion
I had to go out this afternoon, I didn't want to but it was unavoidable., the route took me near the Trafford Centre and along the M60. Going was fine but coming back, OMFG I have never seen traffic as bad on the surrounding motorway and road structure. Every single way was blocked, it was gridlocked for about 3 or 4 miles around it. I ended up going across the moss to get home and it was like driving across the surface of mars, 2 hrs it took, I should have gone that way in the first place.
But my point is why in the name of everything holy would you sit in a traffic jam that long just to go shopping, surely anyone with half a brain cell must realise that even if they get to it before it shuts there will be next to no chance of finding a space. What posses someone to sit in a stationary car for 3 hours out of choice, and thats without thinking about what it will be like once/if you get there.
Mind you if they had half a brain they would realise the sales are a big fat con anyway.
But my point is why in the name of everything holy would you sit in a traffic jam that long just to go shopping, surely anyone with half a brain cell must realise that even if they get to it before it shuts there will be next to no chance of finding a space. What posses someone to sit in a stationary car for 3 hours out of choice, and thats without thinking about what it will be like once/if you get there.
Mind you if they had half a brain they would realise the sales are a big fat con anyway.
I worked in a call centre that answered bluewaters calls when it first opened. First Sunday everyone tried to leave at the same time. Gridlock. We were still getting calls at 9pm asking what we were doing about it.
Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Most mental was the girl who rang from Bayswater road and wanted us to stay on the line giving directions to Bluewater....
Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Most mental was the girl who rang from Bayswater road and wanted us to stay on the line giving directions to Bluewater....
surveyor said:
I worked in a call centre that answered bluewaters calls when it first opened. First Sunday everyone tried to leave at the same time. Gridlock. We were still getting calls at 9pm asking what we were doing about it.
Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Shopping Centres nearly always have cack routes in and out. Bluewater only really has one route in and out. 1.25 at a push if you count going towards Greenhithe.Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Even Lakeside has only 2 primary entrances. It's all down to cost when they build the things.
[quote]Most mental was the girl who rang from Bayswater road and wanted us to stay on the line giving directions to Bluewater....
vikingaero said:
surveyor said:
I worked in a call centre that answered bluewaters calls when it first opened. First Sunday everyone tried to leave at the same time. Gridlock. We were still getting calls at 9pm asking what we were doing about it.
Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Shopping Centres nearly always have cack routes in and out. Bluewater only really has one route in and out. 1.25 at a push if you count going towards Greenhithe.Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Even Lakeside has only 2 primary entrances. It's all down to cost when they build the things.
[quote]Most mental was the girl who rang from Bayswater road and wanted us to stay on the line giving directions to Bluewater....
surveyor said:
vikingaero said:
surveyor said:
I worked in a call centre that answered bluewaters calls when it first opened. First Sunday everyone tried to leave at the same time. Gridlock. We were still getting calls at 9pm asking what we were doing about it.
Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Shopping Centres nearly always have cack routes in and out. Bluewater only really has one route in and out. 1.25 at a push if you count going towards Greenhithe.Some even asked why we were answering the phones and not out sorting traffic. Not withstanding why they were calling us if they thought we should not be there, we had to apologise and say we would if we could, but we were in Bristol...
It was mental in every sense.
Even Lakeside has only 2 primary entrances. It's all down to cost when they build the things.
[quote]Most mental was the girl who rang from Bayswater road and wanted us to stay on the line giving directions to Bluewater....

Just rolled in home and this is the first thing a mate at my house said, The motorway around the TC has been fooooked for with people trying to get in.
I was pretty amazed near Christmas the other year when I went at how bad the on site traffic management was, Poor private sector car park clogging up public roads and delaying people who had no intention of visiting the shopping complex,
It doesn't help when they have to shut the chill factor complex and surrounding roads due to the wind unsettling their roof again http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2013-12-27/...
I was pretty amazed near Christmas the other year when I went at how bad the on site traffic management was, Poor private sector car park clogging up public roads and delaying people who had no intention of visiting the shopping complex,
It doesn't help when they have to shut the chill factor complex and surrounding roads due to the wind unsettling their roof again http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2013-12-27/...
I work in Trafford Park and unfortunately have to use the Trafford Centre exit to get to work. Over the festive period it's been fine but today was a nightmare. The chaos seemed to start around midday and snowballed from there. We had several customers come in saying it had taken them over an hour to get from around the Costco area to near Kelloggs.
I can only assume it was the less die hard 'sale' shoppers that all descended en masse, coupled with the bad weather that meant people wanted to be indoors that caused the mayhem.
I can only assume it was the less die hard 'sale' shoppers that all descended en masse, coupled with the bad weather that meant people wanted to be indoors that caused the mayhem.
NH1 said:
I had to go out this afternoon, I didn't want to but it was unavoidable., the route took me near the Trafford Centre and along the M60. Going was fine but coming back, OMFG I have never seen traffic as bad on the surrounding motorway and road structure.
And you added to it. And all the others just like you.Thank goodness they did not all respond to this thread!
MoelyCrio said:
Complain to Peel Holdings. They make all the money, yet everyone else (ie this thead) suffers the cost.
I'm not a socialist by any means, but it this case, private landowners are making mugs out of you all.
That's the beauty of capitalism; you can vote with your feet and shop elsewhere if you're not happy.I'm not a socialist by any means, but it this case, private landowners are making mugs out of you all.
SV8Predator said:
NH1 said:
I had to go out this afternoon, I didn't want to but it was unavoidable., the route took me near the Trafford Centre and along the M60. Going was fine but coming back, OMFG I have never seen traffic as bad on the surrounding motorway and road structure.
And you added to it. And all the others just like you.Thank goodness they did not all respond to this thread!
https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=53.46067,-2.451003&a...
It doesn't look that bad from that shot, but believe me its a farm track with more potholes than road. It took ages to work out how the level crossing worked as well.
As a previous poster says, the 'Sales' are all a massive con. I worked in retail for 15 years and the prices would often go up in the SALE because people just go mental and buy all sorts of crap thinking they are getting the bargain of a lifetime.
Wait till the second/third week in January when it all goes quiet and the shops become desperate for your money again and that is when they do genuinely do some good deals.
Anyway, the thought of sitting in a traffic jam purely to go shopping is about as pathetic a waste of my time as I can possibly imagine.
Wait till the second/third week in January when it all goes quiet and the shops become desperate for your money again and that is when they do genuinely do some good deals.
Anyway, the thought of sitting in a traffic jam purely to go shopping is about as pathetic a waste of my time as I can possibly imagine.
maniac886 said:
MoelyCrio said:
Complain to Peel Holdings. They make all the money, yet everyone else (ie this thead) suffers the cost.
I'm not a socialist by any means, but it this case, private landowners are making mugs out of you all.
I think Peel Holdings sold the Trafford Centre in 2011?I'm not a socialist by any means, but it this case, private landowners are making mugs out of you all.
The road works around the Trafford Centre will start again on Monday so the traffic will get worse again! Access will allegedly be improved when the new lift bridge is built under Barton Bridge, but at the moment it can't be built as the Highways Agency won't let Peel built it (due to the unstable nature of Barton Bridge).
NH1 said:
I had to go out this afternoon, I didn't want to but it was unavoidable., the route took me near the Trafford Centre and along the M60. Going was fine but coming back, OMFG I have never seen traffic as bad on the surrounding motorway and road structure. Every single way was blocked, it was gridlocked for about 3 or 4 miles around it. I ended up going across the moss to get home and it was like driving across the surface of mars, 2 hrs it took, I should have gone that way in the first place.
Funny, I went to the Lowry, Salford Quays, at a similar time and then travelled back to south Manchester, no signs of the congestion you claim.The roundabouts on Barton Dock Road near Asda/Carcraft are chaos every weekend,and at rush-hour not just when the sales are on.
berlintaxi said:
Funny, I went to the Lowry, Salford Quays, at a similar time and then travelled back to south Manchester, no signs of the congestion you claim.
The roundabouts on Barton Dock Road near Asda/Carcraft are chaos every weekend,and at rush-hour not just when the sales are on.
It was the Worsley area I went to, going was fine but coming back was twice as bad a morning rush hour. The motorway was solid from the Worsley junction of the M60 all the way to the TC. The main road to Eccles was backed up to Worsley, as were all the cut through roads.The roundabouts on Barton Dock Road near Asda/Carcraft are chaos every weekend,and at rush-hour not just when the sales are on.
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