Fair price for exceptional condition car. How determined ?
Fair price for exceptional condition car. How determined ?
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robinessex

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12,019 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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I realise this is (maybe) a silly post, but hear goes. How much over the odds would one expect to pay for a car in an exceptional condition. I guess the real answer is, ‘whatever someone thinks it’s worth’. But I was wondering if there is a guide line as to an ‘acceptable’ amount, and when it goes silly. As an example, I’m looking at a car that WBAC values at £8,800. The guy wants (private sale) £15,500. I’ll admit the car is very good (exceptional), it’s described as the best of its type on the market. Difficult to get a ‘true’ value, I’m again guessing a dealer might have a similar good car with the same year and mileage at circa £11/12,000. The point is I don’t want to waste the guys and my time if I offer what might be judged to be a derisory amount. I’m prepared to pay over the odds, but a fair amount.

Escy

4,130 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Offer what it's worth to you.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

217 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Move on, the guy obviously wants more than you're prepared to pay otherwise you wouldn't be asking about 'fair price'. The vendor probably isn't interested in what's 'fair', just what he wants for it.

A friend of mine's Father has a Rover 216GTi twin cam for sale- it's been for sale on and off since the mid 2000's. He wants 5 grand for it. It's immaculate, less than 50K miles and serviced twice a year despite it hardly stretching it's legs between services. He's on a hiding to nothing

deltashad

6,731 posts

227 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Is it likely to depreciate quickly?
Will you put high miles and used condition on to it?
Over-priced cars in my belief is only good for a garage queen.

I wouldn't.

curlie467

7,650 posts

231 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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I can't imagine there being a set formula for this type of thing.
It all depends what the car is, rarity etc

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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If private, and really exceptional, then no more than a dealer price for one in reasonably good nick. Unless of course the car is very special and you're going to keep it that way.

Searider

1,005 posts

285 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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What is it?

Why is it "exceptional" - is it low mileage? very good cosmetically? or had all the known expensive problems sorted?

C.A.R.

3,992 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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I managed to sell my MK1 MX5 for £3,300

Back then there were buying guides out there that the 'best' examples go for less than 2.5k. It was pretty immaculate, hadn't been fiddled with engine-wise, recent full GAZ suspension, hardtop, some JDM goodies but otherwise completely original with recent paintwork too.

I guess it really does depend on the car in question.

surveyor

18,695 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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In my world a car that I'm using does lots of miles and does not stay in 'exceptional' condition for long. Therefore I'm never likely to pay much for one that is exceptional rather than good.

steveo3002

11,211 posts

204 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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does it matter how much anyone on the internet says? he wants £15k for it so thats how much it costs with maybe a bit of haggling room

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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steveo3002 said:
does it matter how much anyone on the internet says? he wants £15k for it so thats how much it costs with maybe a bit of haggling room
Doesn't cost that if no one is willing to pay it.

dirty boy

14,864 posts

239 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

You have to either accept there will be offers on a car which are a) people trying their luck or b) they think it's worth less


POORCARDEALER

8,666 posts

271 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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WBAC are not the holy grail in car valuations.....OP what is the car?

Jasandjules

72,611 posts

259 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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You offer him what you are willing to pay for it.

If he doesn't accept, then you can wait a week or three and if still for sale, offer him the same again....

AndyLB

428 posts

194 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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C.A.R. said:
I managed to sell my MK1 MX5 for £3,300

Back then there were buying guides out there that the 'best' examples go for less than 2.5k. It was pretty immaculate, hadn't been fiddled with engine-wise, recent full GAZ suspension, hardtop, some JDM goodies but otherwise completely original with recent paintwork too.

I guess it really does depend on the car in question.
This. If you find someone gullible enough and can persuade them your car is brilliant they'll pay almost anything.


TwistingMyMelon

6,516 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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If you really want it pay it, but go in with your eyes open and realise it will be hard to recoup the premium you paid

Or just offer what you think is fair, if not move on

steveo3002

11,211 posts

204 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Tribal Chestnut said:
steveo3002 said:
does it matter how much anyone on the internet says? he wants £15k for it so thats how much it costs with maybe a bit of haggling room
Doesn't cost that if no one is willing to pay it.
yeah but you cant expect to turn up and say steve from the internet said its worth £9567 and you have to sell it to me

UberMeister

314 posts

182 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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My approach would be to email or call saying you don't want to waste his time looking at the car unless he's prepare to consider offers in the region of £X. If £X sounds reasonable to the seller then take things further, if not then he knows what you'll pay and will get back to you if he's prepared to come down on price.

For the record, I have previously and would continue to pay a considerable premium for a car that is exceptional. Although to determine what is 'exceptional' it is vital to shop around. smile



Foppo

2,346 posts

154 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Just curious what car is it?

getawayturtle

3,560 posts

204 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Do you know how long it has been up for sale?