Overtake me safely!
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davamer23

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1,158 posts

184 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Rant time but it's probably a common problem.

Scenario- on a dual carriageway or motorway. Inside lane 60-70mph doing depending on traffic/conditions etc.

A vehicle behind decides to overtake me; their perogative. Either the following vehicle waits till the last possible moment to move out into the other lane, literally inches from executing a PIT manouvere OR the more common one that I've experienced is that they decide to move back into my lane before they've even passed me.

This has become more and more something I'm seeing.

Now no one has ever collided with me but I've have tensed up a few times waiting for a crunch or I've had to lift off or dab the brake pedal.

It's the most infuriating when the road is quiet. No cars in front of me, the overtaking lane is clear for some distance, yet they still move out way to late and move back in way too early. Whenever it happens I think is it me, am I driving so slow that their manouvere is a sort of protest to my taking up their valuable road space but i'm always travelling at a decent pace.

I can't be invisible otherwise they'd not know to actually move over to overtake- they know there is a vehicle there.

If you do this - WISE UP!
That is all.

C.A.R.

3,992 posts

218 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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What you're basically saying is that so far you've anticipated their manoeuvre by backing off or braking to avoid a collision. There are a lot of crap drivers out there which is why you experience these things regularly, many of whom lack spacial awareness.

As long as you remain aware of their presence then I'm sure you'll continue to miss them. Not really sure what point you're trying to make?

davamer23

Original Poster:

1,158 posts

184 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Merely highlighting an increasing occurrence of poor driving.

This is a forum where people share their experiences of cars/roads/driving and any number of things.

You may have missed my point but you have missed the point of a forum.


AC43

13,628 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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davamer23 said:
Merely highlighting an increasing occurrence of poor driving.

This is a forum where people share their experiences of cars/roads/driving and any number of things.

You may have missed my point but you have missed the point of a forum.
I agree with you. Some fella did this to me on an otherwise deserted dual carriageway in Norfolk. Missed me by milimetres when he pulled back in and would have collected my front wing if I hadn't jumped on the anchors. I was driving an E Class estate so not hard to miss.

I assumed it was some form of protest but there was no gesticulation, etc so now assume he just couldn't judge it. Gulp.

Grimezy93

164 posts

161 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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I don't pull back in after an overtake until I can see all of the car in my central rear view mirror; it was something I was taught in my lessons and something I'll always do. Perhaps they just don't realise how close they're really getting to you.

alsem

580 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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The roads are filled with idiots waiting to crash, the police are busy making sure everybody has insurance.

shiftydave

247 posts

194 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Grimezy93 said:
I don't pull back in after an overtake until I can see all of the car in my central rear view mirror; it was something I was taught in my lessons and something I'll always do. Perhaps they just don't realise how close they're really getting to you.
I'm the same, or I'll at least have looked over my left shoulder to make sure I'm clear if someone's flying up behind me.

trashbat

6,307 posts

183 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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davamer23 said:
Either the following vehicle waits till the last possible moment to move out into the other lane, literally inches from executing a PIT manouvere
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this one.

Before moving out to assess and ultimately carry out an overtake, it's legitimate to have closed the gap to below the safe following distance. It means they spend less time on the other side of the road.

Laurel Green

31,144 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Probably car on cruise control hoping the car in front will increase their speed so as not to have to overtake - idiots!

cologne2792

2,151 posts

156 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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trashbat said:
'm not sure I understand what you mean by this one.

Before moving out to assess and ultimately carry out an overtake, it's legitimate to have closed the gap to below the safe following distance. It means they spend less time on the other side of the road.
The context is motorway or dual carriageway.

The Walrus

1,857 posts

235 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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trashbat said:
'm not sure I understand what you mean by this one.

Before moving out to assess and ultimately carry out an overtake, it's legitimate to have closed the gap to below the safe following distance. It means they spend less time on the other side of the road.
He was on a dual carriage way !

Even still getting that close on an overtake would lead me to believe that you do not have the sufficient space to overtake in the first place.

trashbat

6,307 posts

183 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Oh yeah, whoops. As you were!

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

165 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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I don't see this very often up in Scotland. What I do see though is people pulling in far too close when it's absolutely pissing down which leaves our car with a windscreen full of spray which is hard to see through even with wipers at full pelt. I seem to be one of the only people to actually leave an extended distance before pulling back in so the car behind isn't affected by the spray of water in our wake. That's the oblivious overtaking thing that pisses me off

davamer23

Original Poster:

1,158 posts

184 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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trashbat said:
'm not sure I understand what you mean by this one.

Before moving out to assess and ultimately carry out an overtake, it's legitimate to have closed the gap to below the safe following distance. It means they spend less time on the other side of the road.
Still leave a car length at least. Especially when the overtaking lane is clear and quiet and you don't need to rush into a gap. Sampling my rear bumpers paint isn't the correct way to do it. At least not the way I do it. Close the gap yes but don't take the mick.

I can be aware and anticipate all I want but if at the moment someone is slip stream over taking me Nascar style, I need to brake then they'd be right up my chuff!

AndyLB

428 posts

194 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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I have seen people do this on the Motorway - often as a protest to middle lane hogging. Doesn't make it right admittedly.

357RS

275 posts

187 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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ModernAndy said:
I don't see this very often up in Scotland. What I do see though is people pulling in far too close when it's absolutely pissing down which leaves our car with a windscreen full of spray which is hard to see through even with wipers at full pelt. I seem to be one of the only people to actually leave an extended distance before pulling back in so the car behind isn't affected by the spray of water in our wake. That's the oblivious overtaking thing that pisses me off
No you're not the only one who leaves that extended space or the only one who gets a bit pissed off by the windscreen full of unnecessary spray.
But there aren't many of us around.

Jamesgt

851 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Maybe you've got a baby on board sign? Or they were looking for a slipstream?getmecoat

V8A*ndy

3,701 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Grimezy93 said:
I don't pull back in after an overtake until I can see all of the car in my central rear view mirror; it was something I was taught in my lessons and something I'll always do.
Same here.

Going by my experience on the roads these days it would seem they don't teach this anymore.







Sensibleboy

1,168 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Still sounds too close to me. Does this explain why people still pull in too close when it's wet?

I pull in at a distance it's safe for the person behind to drive from my bumper. The rule above take no account of the bigger distance needed at higher speeds.

robinessex

12,019 posts

211 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Look at left side rear view mirror. When you can see both of the overtaken vehicles headlamps, you can move left.