Roads are for driving on not parking.
Roads are for driving on not parking.
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Sensibleboy

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1,168 posts

155 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Who thinks roads are far safer for all users when there are no cars parked on them?

Should people with driveways and garages be made to use them? I see loads of houses where driveways are empty because people are too lazy to use them. Their garages are full of junk but their expensive car is on the road.

The same people park near street corners blocking the view out of side roads. Why isn't the 10 metre from junction parking rule enforced these days?

It amazes me on some roads that are narrow and people park on both sides of the road making the road extremely narrow. How a fire engine could get down these roads if needed is beyond me.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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I think cars parked on the road around here are great, they slow down the impatient.

But I hate the ones that park on the pavement, I think the pram pushers should not be so considerate. That is waround here where there is plenty of room if they parked on the road.

AnotherClarkey

3,698 posts

219 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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No, roads were obviously originally intended for pedestrians, horses and cyclists. Not for driving or parking.

Mave

8,217 posts

245 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Sensibleboy said:
Who thinks roads are far safer for all users when there are no cars parked on them?

Should people with driveways and garages be made to use them? I see loads of houses where driveways are empty because people are too lazy to use them. Their garages are full of junk but their expensive car is on the road.
Have you seen how much storage space there is in modern houses these days? Some of the blame needs to be property developers squeezing as many plots into an acre as possible.....

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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So your proposing that there should be no on street parking - most UK houses are either flats or terraces without parking.

Where should these park

kambites

71,538 posts

251 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Mave said:
Have you seen how much storage space there is in modern houses these days? Some of the blame needs to be property developers squeezing as many plots into an acre as possible.....
The blame lies with the buyers more than the developers. As long as people rate the value of houses largely by the number of bedrooms, developers will continue to squeeze as many rooms in per acre as viable.

Developers don't build viable garages and/or drives because by and large the buyers aren't willing to pay for them.

LordHaveMurci

12,337 posts

199 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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jmorgan said:
I think cars parked on the road around here are great, they slow down the impatient.

But I hate the ones that park on the pavement, I think the pram pushers should not be so considerate. That is waround here where there is plenty of room if they parked on the road.
^ This

Foppo

2,346 posts

154 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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We live in a cul de sac very narrow road to enter.Neighbour across from me always parked outside his house,often his drive is empty.

Anything bigger than a car struggles to drive by and used to drive over my garden.

I've planted shrubs to stop this happening.I've had words with him to either use his drive or park on his own garden.He storms off and mumbles something where else can I park?

Sorry to say he is thick like so many people who are inconsiderate and couldn't care less where they plonk their car.

kambites

71,538 posts

251 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Welshbeef said:
most UK houses are either flats or terraces without parking.
Not strictly true. At the time of the last census more than half of residential properties in England and Wales were detached or semi-detached. Only just, though:

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/k...

I suspect it's more common for terraces to have drives than semis or detached houses not to, as well; plus some flats have private parking. I'd imagine something like 60-70% of properties in the UK have off-street parking. Of course this also leaves a lot that don't.

Edited by kambites on Saturday 11th January 10:30

Negative Creep

26,097 posts

257 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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LordHaveMurci said:
jmorgan said:
I think cars parked on the road around here are great, they slow down the impatient.

But I hate the ones that park on the pavement, I think the pram pushers should not be so considerate. That is waround here where there is plenty of room if they parked on the road.
^ This
Lots of road would be impassible if people didn't park half on the pavement

Sensibleboy

Original Poster:

1,168 posts

155 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Welshbeef said:
So your proposing that there should be no on street parking - most UK houses are either flats or terraces without parking.

Where should these park
Can't see that written anywhere.

I'm questioning why don't people with off street parking available to them use the facility? Why are they subjecting the rest of the world to having to dodge round their belongings?

Roads are safer for all users when they are clear of these obstructions.


Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Sensibleboy said:
Can't see that written anywhere.

I'm questioning why don't people with off street parking available to them use the facility? Why are they subjecting the rest of the world to having to dodge round their belongings?

Roads are safer for all users when they are clear of these obstructions.
Not necessarily. Residential roads devoid of parked cars encourage faster speeds whereas when cars are parked, drivers tend to slow down. It's something I see (and hear) where I live when parking restrictions are lifted at weekends and parked cars make drivers more cautious and reduce speed.

Sensibleboy

Original Poster:

1,168 posts

155 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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I think 30mph on an uncongested road with clear views out of side roads and driveways is safer than 20mph on a parked up road.


Geekman

2,907 posts

176 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Sensibleboy said:
Can't see that written anywhere.

I'm questioning why don't people with off street parking available to them use the facility? Why are they subjecting the rest of the world to having to dodge round their belongings?

Roads are safer for all users when they are clear of these obstructions.
I park on the road despite there being space in my drive because if my dad wants to move his car, he would have to move both of mine which would be parked in front of it in the drive. Also, if he parks in front of me on the drive and I want to go out, I have to move his car which I'm not actually insured to do. Have had the usual mutterings from the neighbours but there's plenty of space on the road so I'm not inconveniencing anyone.

Monkeylegend

29,321 posts

261 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Welshbeef said:
So your proposing that there should be no on street parking - most UK houses are either flats or terraces without parking.

Where should these park
Wack their name down on the LA subsidised garage waiting list. Then in 5 years time they can post on here to say they have got one.

What could possibly go wrong?

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Welshbeef said:
So your proposing that there should be no on street parking - most UK houses are either flats or terraces without parking.

Where should these park
of course he's not. Read the post properly.

PaulG40

2,381 posts

255 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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In my cul de sac, there is really only room to park on one side of the road. Still, people will still park on the other side blocking the road for us who live at the bottom.

Don't even get me starting about people who visit next door yet park in front of my driveway gates!!!!

Monkeylegend

29,321 posts

261 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Anyone have a problem with people who visit next door and park in front of your driveway?

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Sensibleboy said:
I think 30mph on an uncongested road with clear views out of side roads and driveways is safer than 20mph on a parked up road.
Safer for whom?

RobM77

35,349 posts

264 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Negative Creep said:
LordHaveMurci said:
jmorgan said:
I think cars parked on the road around here are great, they slow down the impatient.

But I hate the ones that park on the pavement, I think the pram pushers should not be so considerate. That is waround here where there is plenty of room if they parked on the road.
^ This
Lots of road would be impassible if people didn't park half on the pavement
So would lots of pavements! The answer's to park somewhere where you're not causing a blockage of any kind.