Modifying cars and insurance
Modifying cars and insurance
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caaarrl94

Original Poster:

14 posts

175 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Do you tell?
What if you lower the car or modify the engine?

Searider

1,005 posts

285 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Yes

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

155 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Oh dear.

MinuteMan

330 posts

180 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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You always tell. Pick one - Void insurance in the chance of a crash, or pay a couple of hundred extra for your policy?

DubZeus

1,401 posts

248 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Every mod declared, even my stereo

Heaveho

7,519 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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justanother5tar said:
Oh dear.
This....stupid question, pointless thread. If you don't already know the answer, you're too fking stupid to drive a car.

caaarrl94

Original Poster:

14 posts

175 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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Sorry there seems to have been a misunderstanding, i'm not a sking because i'm not unsure what i should legally do.
I know the insurers most be notified of anything even as stupid as changing the cd player.

But the reason i ask is because I see loads of 17 year old driving around in their little saxos, 106s, lupos, corsas, many of which have been lowered.
Now when I was messing around a while back looking at how much extra insurance costs if you modify your car seriously then It was just unaffordable.

Are all of these little boyracers probably breaking the law?

I know i wouldnt buy a car that would cost 1500 to insure as standard for example, then be willing to pay 1000 more just to have the ride a little lower on my st car.

hdrflow

854 posts

168 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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caaarrl94 said:
Now when I was messing around a while back looking at how much extra insurance costs if you modify your car seriously then It was just unaffordable.
Depends on individual circumstances of course. There are brokers that specialise on modified car insurance and they're affordable for most.

P I Staker

3,308 posts

186 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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caaarrl94 said:
But the reason i ask is because I see loads of 17 year old driving around in their little saxos, 106s, lupos, corsas, many of which have been lowered.
Now when I was messing around a while back looking at how much extra insurance costs if you modify your car seriously then It was just unaffordable.

Are all of these little boyracers probably breaking the law?
Probably. wink

LoonR1

26,988 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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caaarrl94 said:
Sorry there seems to have been a misunderstanding, i'm not a sking because i'm not unsure what i should legally do.
I know the insurers most be notified of anything even as stupid as changing the cd player.

But the reason i ask is because I see loads of 17 year old driving around in their little saxos, 106s, lupos, corsas, many of which have been lowered.
Now when I was messing around a while back looking at how much extra insurance costs if you modify your car seriously then It was just unaffordable.

Are all of these little boyracers probably breaking the law?

I know i wouldnt buy a car that would cost 1500 to insure as standard for example, then be willing to pay 1000 more just to have the ride a little lower on my st car.
Google "Anne Bissmire" for an explanation of the ultimate consequences

rscott

17,493 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Shop around - it may not cost any extra with some insurers. I modified my old Saab 9-3 - poly bushes, Abbott rack clamp, ecu update,bigger turbo, stainless steel exhaust with high flow cat,.. Power output went from 185 to about 240bhp.
I was in my mid 30s, clean license, good area, etc. My original insurer refused to even quote with the mods yet with another they only put the premium up from £250 to £280.
I'm still with the same insurer - they didn't charge any extra at all with my current car when I had the ECU updated giving a 10% power increase.

Escort3500

13,508 posts

175 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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caaarrl94 said:
Sorry there seems to have been a misunderstanding, i'm not a sking because i'm not unsure what i should legally do.
I know the insurers most be notified of anything even as stupid as changing the cd player.

But the reason i ask is because I see loads of 17 year old driving around in their little saxos, 106s, lupos, corsas, many of which have been lowered.
Now when I was messing around a while back looking at how much extra insurance costs if you modify your car seriously then It was just unaffordable.

Are all of these little boyracers probably breaking the law?

I know i wouldnt buy a car that would cost 1500 to insure as standard for example, then be willing to pay 1000 more just to have the ride a little lower on my st car.
A mate of mine has a repair workshop. A couple of years ago I was in having a brew, and there was a badly front-ended Peugeot hatch of some sort with heavily tinted windows, phat exhaust, slammed suspension etc. The young guy had pulled out of a junction into the side of a Saab; both cars had been severely damaged. The assessor had been to the workshop the previous day and confirmed the Pug was a write-off, but said it was unlikely that the insurer would honour the claim due to the undeclared mods. I don't know what the situation was with the Saab as it had gone to another bodyshop. So the lad would have had his car written off with no compensation, and presumably would have had to pay for repairs to the Saab, or even the cost of a write off. And worse if the police had got involved. Salutary lesson for anyone thinking it's clever not to tell your insurer of any mods. I've always told mine; the consequences of not doing so and having a crunch don't bear thinking about.

elephantstone

2,176 posts

187 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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I'm about to upgrade the exhaust on my mx5 and forgot to enquire about insurance to be honest! This thread reminded me. 70quid for the change to policy is worth it for piece of mind.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,031 posts

265 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Heaveho said:
justanother5tar said:
Oh dear.
This....stupid question, pointless thread. If you don't already know the answer, you're too fking stupid to drive a car.
hehe Heaveho school of charm

martinnitram

244 posts

231 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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DubZeus said:
Every mod declared, even my stereo
Why even bother to waste your breath telling them about a stereo ? unless the sound system is one of those that cost as much as the car.
Same as changing the bushes and telling the insurance, whats the point, they dont care and will never know.
Lots of paranoia imo.

B'stard Child

31,113 posts

276 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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caaarrl94 said:
Sorry there seems to have been a misunderstanding, i'm not a sking because i'm not unsure what i should legally do.
I know the insurers most be notified of anything even as stupid as changing the cd player.

But the reason i ask is because I see loads of 17 year old driving around in their little saxos, 106s, lupos, corsas, many of which have been lowered.
Now when I was messing around a while back looking at how much extra insurance costs if you modify your car seriously then It was just unaffordable.

Are all of these little boyracers probably breaking the law?

I know i wouldnt buy a car that would cost 1500 to insure as standard for example, then be willing to pay 1000 more just to have the ride a little lower on my st car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-11717295

Actions have consequences

LoonR1

26,988 posts

207 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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B'stard Child said:
I presume that's the Anne Bissmire case I referred to earlier. It doesn't make your point over the stereo though, as that car was hugely modified and a case of fronting too.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

207 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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B'stard Child said:
I presume that's the Anne Bissmire case I referred to earlier. It doesn't make your point over the stereo though, as that car was hugely modified and a case of fronting too.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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martinnitram said:
Why even bother to waste your breath telling them about a stereo ? unless the sound system is one of those that cost as much as the car.
Same as changing the bushes and telling the insurance, whats the point, they dont care and will never know.
Lots of paranoia imo.
'They' will if your car is involved in a serious accident. It'll be very carefully examined for defects which will reveal any modifications.

martinnitram

244 posts

231 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Ill stand by my previous statement

Lots of paranoia.