Cat C to B...
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James Rowe

Original Poster:

4 posts

189 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Evening all,

Well I purchased a car from a salvage yard recently and sadly it was missing some bits that were clearly photographed in the listing, however once delivery had taken place I noticed bits missing.

Anyhow after speaking to the very rude salvage people, they sent the most vital bit back as they "took it off for safe keeping and forgot to give it to me on delivery" which was a plaque/badge for the limited run of vehicle.

Anyhow, today via the post the envelope turned up, surprise surprise its not in the envelope and is missing. So I've explained how its the senders responsibility and now I have lost something that can be purchased thanks to them, I've advise them of the poor customer service and that I am planning on reporting them to ebay.

As such they have continued with the great customer service traits and said if you wish to make that threat then they will change the cat C marker to a cat B.

My worry is, is that even possible for a salvage yard todo this and change it to a CAT B?!

Thanks


James

theposhboy

123 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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I'm not 100% but I believe it's the insurance company who rate cars not salvage yards. However if they did try to do this I am 100% sure they would be in breach of contract as you have an ebay invoice for a cat C not B car. For what its worth worth some manufacturers will sell you a replacement plaque if you send them proof of ownership, worth a call

Risotto

3,933 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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They wouldn't be based near Wigan by any chance would they?! As for the bluster about changing the category, just ignore them.

D1bram

1,518 posts

201 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Sounds like a real professional outfit frown

James Rowe

Original Poster:

4 posts

189 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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They are far from a professional outfit, the car seems pretty sound, however it has a few issues such as MAF and O2 sensors which werent an issue before and now are. However I think this is due to the car sitting and the battery died, as such the ecu needs resetting I believe.

However they offer only abuse and nothing more, not one sorry or thought of a refund. They actually said to f##k off last night, I pointed out that I'd never dream of treating a customer of mine like he has to me.


dry664

304 posts

169 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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James Rowe said:
Evening all,
....I purchased a car from a salvage yard recently
James

TameScrapman

179 posts

155 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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Extremely unprofessional behaviour.

The salvage yard CANNOT change the category from C to B, only the insurance company can do this and it's extremely unlikely when the car has already been categorised and paid out. If it did happen to be changed to a cat B, it can only be sold to a licensed dismantler or ATF and selling to a member of the general public would be highly illegal.

deebow

115 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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some salvage yards do actually have the power to do this due to links with the insurance company. ive heard stories of this happening before where cars have been delivered without payment and buyer then decides to withhold payment but if item been sold as cat c and they then change it to cat b you should be able to take it to court

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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what difference does it make?
both Cat B and C require the same inspection to get them back on the road

deebow

115 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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cat b arent allowed to used on the road

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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deebow said:
cat b arent allowed to used on the road
Yes they are, there is no law preventing this.

SAdam123

1,285 posts

184 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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deebow said:
cat b arent allowed to used on the road
Wrong.

TameScrapman

179 posts

155 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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A Cat B CAN NOT be put back on the road,

Website said:
A vehicle from which spare parts may be salvaged, but the bodyshell should have been crushed and the car should never return to the road.
Taken from http://www.autocheck.co.uk/write-off-categories.ht...



Website said:
Salvage Categories

Once a vehicle is written off it is classed as salvage. There are several categories of salvage. In summary the categories are as follows:

Category A - the entire vehicle must be crushed.

Category B - the vehicle may be broken for parts but it must never be returned to the road.

Category C - possible structural damage but the vehicle is repairable. The cost of the damage would have been more than the book value of the car if that repairs were carried out at garage prices and official manufacturers parts.

Category D - most likely to be nonstructural damage and should be relatively easily repairable. In this case the vehicle may have been economical to repair but for other reasons it was written off. For example where the insurer have to provide a courtesy car the time taken to repair the vehicle would mean that the courtesy car cost together with the repair cost would be excessive. In a category D scenario it is more likely that the insurer did not wish to repair.

Category X - this is minor damage and easily repairable.
Taken from http://www.carinsuranceonline.org.uk/totallosswrit...

crossy67

1,570 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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They can't change the cat from c to b, if they could and did they would be breaking the law as I am sure general public aren't allowed to buy them, they must be sold to a licensed breakers.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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TameScrapman said:
A Cat B CAN NOT be put back on the road,
Trying finding the actual law that prohibits this, it doesn't exist. What you have posted pertains to the agreement/contract between insurance companies and the vehicle dismantlers that buy the writes offs to break. A Cat B should never end up on the road, but some of them do and it's not illegal.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
TameScrapman said:
A Cat B CAN NOT be put back on the road,
Trying finding the actual law that prohibits this, it doesn't exist. What you have posted pertains to the agreement/contract between insurance companies and the vehicle dismantlers that buy the writes offs to break. A Cat B should never end up on the road, but some of them do and it's not illegal.
This. If you can get your car out of the grubby mitts of the salvage/insurer circle then a Cat. B can go back on the road. It'll be impossible to insure mind you.

What the salvage yard have said is blatantly stupid, they will have submitted their report to the ins. co on the value of the repair cost, it's the insurer who then decides the category based on their estimate of the car's value.

Cat D = >60%, with sundry costs included.
Cat C = >100% repair alone
Cat B = >200% repair alone

Edited by Krikkit on Wednesday 15th January 18:18