RE: Under the hammer: Mercedes-Benz 500SL
RE: Under the hammer: Mercedes-Benz 500SL
Thursday 23rd January 2014

Mercedes-Benz 500SL: Under The Hammer

Auction sales offer hint that R129 SL might be on the verge of a classic revival - pounce now says Keith!



I've recently found myself with a bit of an unnatural urge to buy a Mercedes-Benz 500SL. Perhaps it's an age thing, or hopefully just a passing phase, but either way, this is a worrying development. I've been watching them for a while now, tracking their depreciation - and it would look to me that we're close to the bottom of the curve. And unless world events serve us another huge spike in petrol prices, they should start easing up in value as 'secondhand Merc' becomes 'classic Benz'.

Estimate on this SL is just £3.5K; tempted?
Estimate on this SL is just £3.5K; tempted?
My interest in them has been piqued following an innocuous conversation about the rising prices of classic cars. A friend recently bemoaned how anything classic shaped she fancied seemed to be out of reach, and my response was to think 'modern' or 'future classics' - and as she wanted a convertible, how about a Mercedes-Benz 500SL? Ex-colleague Harry Metcalfe has just picked up a mighty V12 SL600 AMG, taxed and tested for £5,500, while an auction house owning friend of mine recently picked up a low-mileage full-service history 500SL for £2,200. He's not the only one. Tell me, are there many options out there where you get more for less?

As we all know, the R129 generation SL was a revolutionary product when launched. It bristled with the white heat of 1990s technology, packing everything Mercedes-Benz could throw at it, including an active roll-over bar that automatically sprung-up when the car was up-ended. Although the six-cylinder 280, 300 and 320s are probably the more 'sensible' SLs, my experience is that the 32-valve M119 5.0-litre V8 delivers the best all-round combination of performance, understated drama, and - whisper it - potential real world economy.

Six-cylinder sensible but Keith wants a V8
Six-cylinder sensible but Keith wants a V8
On the road, it's not the boulevardier that its predecessor, the R107 Lucy Ewing SL was, but neither would you describe the 500SL as a sports car, even though it is fast and sounds great (6.0 seconds for the 0-60mph run and a maximum speed of 155mph). Although it handles well and has oodles of grip (on the right tyres), remote-feeling steering, smooth autobox, and ample seats will probably set you on a more relaxed driving style.

Perfect, then, as a future classic that you can pick up for near-shed money. But just make sure you can answer the following questions in the affirmative before taking the plunge. Can you afford to fuel it? And can you afford to fix it? I'm probably a 'no' to both, but I can dream.

Check front wings and jacking points for rust
Check front wings and jacking points for rust
There are a few must-dos when looking at one to buy - make sure it comes with the hardtop, and that it can be removed, if fitted, so you can see the hood working. It's a complex folding mechanism, and can cost up to £2,000 to properly sort a broken one. Also, look for water ingress in the footwells - the bulkhead ventilation plenum chamber may have rusted. If possible, buy one that's always been garaged to lessen the risk.

Rust can also strike the front wings and jacking points - but other than damage where the hardtop has been badly fitted, or if the car has poor body repairs, it shouldn't be serious. Electrical gremlins are mainly limited to the effects of having a 'phone or alarm fitted. And with the engine - the oil pressure gauge should read 3 nearly all the time, possibly dropping to 1.5-2 when hot - if not, consider walking away. A short list, then, for a car so complex and expensive when new.

This 500SL made £4K in December
This 500SL made £4K in December
The low prices are probably down to the sheer number for sale at classic car auctions during the course of a year. PH Classifieds reveals a few at any given time, and most UK auctions will have at least a couple on the lot list. This weekend's Anglia auction is typical. It's a very pretty 1993 500SL with 91K on the clock riding on AMG alloys (check they're genuine), with an estimate of £3,250-3,500.

That's a very good price, assuming it passes all of the checks, and you get it for that. It is also thrown into relief by the 1990 500SL that went through Barons just before Christmas for a comparatively stiff £4,300. Considering that car was wearing an AMG bodykit (you decide if you like that or not - I'd leave it), and had a rather naff aftermarket wooden steering wheel, that's quite a result. Too soon and too early to say they're on the up already, but still plenty of metal for your money.

However, I can't see it long before the rest of the world starts calling these classics - and you already know what will happen to the prices when that happens...

 



   


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soad

Original Poster:

34,646 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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A blast from the 90s! cool

I recall, there was a 6.0 L V12 SL600.
Also, a SL73 AMG - not sure how made made/sold, super rare.

MagnaJeep

309 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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The prices of well maintained low mileage cars have never really dropped far below 15k €
in continental Europe. Very cheap SL's are UK only.

I really try to convince myself that a 96 facelift (Mopf) 320 SL
is a way better buy than the 79 Corvette I fancy buying, before everyone jumps
the classic Merc convertible bandwagon and prices skyrocket, but it just
leaves me cold.

daveco

4,400 posts

236 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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SL 500 was far quicker than figures suggest too.

Wills2

29,567 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I had a 1997 sl320 in green black with mushroom leather, lovely, lovely car but they do cost when the electrics go wrong, dashboards and the roof controller units are prone to failure.

But get a good one and for the money is there anything better?




Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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1. Heavy old cruiser

2. Watch out for the bills

A classic case of "just because it's cheap to buy doesn't mean it's cheap to run". Someone will pop up and say they've run one for 10 years at £100 a year while most owners will still be nursing their wallets after a severe beating...

goldblum

10,272 posts

196 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Is the author suggesting buying a huge and old MB, parking it, insuring it and occasionally driving it, hoping it doesn't go wrong and then selling it on for a few Gs profit? Rather him than me. smile

V8DNW

102 posts

254 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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A friend had a relatively new 320SL in the late 90s.

The 6-cylinder/auto-box transmission produced lots of revs, lots of gear changing and precious little forward momentum.

pSyCoSiS

4,309 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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These have also been on my radar for a while, along with the BMW 8 Series.

Have seen and even been offered a few under the £2k mark. They needed a few bits and bobs doing, but nothing major and mainly only cosmetic.

Lovely car with great class and was the ultimate status symbol in it's day. A timeless classic that will always get positive comments and be admired.

If I get one cheap enough I would take the plunge - they really can't get any cheaper.

The Brabus model would be my dream choice.

theJT

333 posts

214 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I'm currently very seriously considering doing the same thing but with a 500/560 SEC. I know it's a terrible idea, but there's far fewer electrical bits to go wrong, and the call of the V8 is strong. Since I only drive about 1000 miles a year these days I really don't care what the fuel economy is like.

MogulBoy

3,066 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Found a SL 73 AMG up for grabs in Switerland... Looks nice but perhaps some will view as a cheap (!) a spare engine for their Zonda!

http://www.autoscout24.ch/HCI/CustomDetail.aspx?cu...


Wills2

29,567 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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There was an sl73 up for sale for a while at Charles Ironside, it appears to be sold now, last price I saw it adevertised for was £39,995 IIRC described as ex Brunei car with 565hp.

pSyCoSiS

4,309 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Along with the W140 S Class, these were truly last of the over-engineered Mercedes.

Feel the quality of the R230 cabin compared to an R129, and you will see what I mean...

New Mercs don't even come close!

HemiCommander

4,236 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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theJT said:
I'm currently very seriously considering doing the same thing but with a 500/560 SEC. I know it's a terrible idea, but there's far fewer electrical bits to go wrong, and the call of the V8 is strong. Since I only drive about 1000 miles a year these days I really don't care what the fuel economy is like.
Do it, they're awesome. I had a 560 SEC, they are magnificent beasts and just so cool. Look hard for a well looked after and non rusty one that hasn't been sat for a long time and it should last forever. Mine had a full custom stainless exhaust system on it and made a truly filthy noise when given the beans cloud9.

nicfaz

439 posts

259 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Is it now time for the Pistonheads classifieds to subdivide Mercedes into model numbers (R129, R230) then? It would make searching for these much easier...

Dapster

9,431 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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MogulBoy said:
Found a SL 73 AMG up for grabs in Switerland... Looks nice but perhaps some will view as a cheap (!) a spare engine for their Zonda!

http://www.autoscout24.ch/HCI/CustomDetail.aspx?cu...
Charles Ironside had an ex Sultan of Brunei car up for sale. Was £75k or something, but came down to about £45k, and now sold. 1 of only 2 RHD cars apparently.





http://www.charlesironside.co.uk/

theJT

333 posts

214 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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HemiCommander said:
Do it, they're awesome. I had a 560 SEC, they are magnificent beasts and just so cool. Look hard for a well looked after and non rusty one that hasn't been sat for a long time and it should last forever. Mine had a full custom stainless exhaust system on it and made a truly filthy noise when given the beans cloud9.
Honestly, I think the only thing stopping me is that they're the better part of 5m long, and I really don't think it would fit in my parking space.

George29

14,714 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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soad said:
A blast from the 90s! cool

I recall, there was a 6.0 L V12 SL600.
Also the 6 litre V8 SL60 AMG smokin

My dad had one back in 1996. Fantastic cars.


jke11y

3,200 posts

266 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Couple of ropey looking examples in the article. Also the car Harry bought isn't a great example (I saw it parked on the street in Glasgow a couple of years back) but it was cheap for a 600.

I absolutely love my R129 that much I can say!

jke11y

3,200 posts

266 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Couple of ropey looking examples in the article. Also the car Harry bought isn't a great example (I saw it parked on the street in Glasgow a couple of years back) but it was cheap for a 600.

I absolutely love my R129 that much I can say!

KeithAdams

38 posts

188 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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goldblum said:
Is the author suggesting buying a huge and old MB, parking it, insuring it and occasionally driving it, hoping it doesn't go wrong and then selling it on for a few Gs profit? Rather him than me. smile
Gosh, no. If I bought a 500SL, I'd use it as much as I could before the money runs out smile

Edited by KeithAdams on Thursday 23 January 12:43