Cambelt - 100k miles or 10 years - is that a lot?
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57 Astra Mk5 1.9cdti 150, called dealer enquiring if I should change it and to my surprise he said don't worry about it, it's covered to 100k miles/10 years, currently it's on 77k and 6 years old, he also said as it's under extended Vauxhall warranty so will be covered, car has full manufacturer service history.
Not sure what to do now, change belt and water pump or take his advise, 100k or 10 years seems a lot to me!
Not sure what to do now, change belt and water pump or take his advise, 100k or 10 years seems a lot to me!
Know what you mean. I'm old skool about this stuff, my Connect is meant to be ok 'til 150k miles..............it'll have had 3 sets of belts and tensioners on by then! Just can't bring myself to do it any other way. I worked for Ford when they recommended changing the belt at 36k miles on the CVHs, we used to get them in with as little as 12k on them with the belt snapped. It's a powerful memory!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q84-wmC-1NU
I thought the Rover KV6 was 90K miles.
Sometimes it's the tensioners that fail. I think very occasionally new tensioners can fail. Sometimes, 'if it aint broke' may be better.
I thought the Rover KV6 was 90K miles.
Sometimes it's the tensioners that fail. I think very occasionally new tensioners can fail. Sometimes, 'if it aint broke' may be better.
Heaveho said:
Know what you mean. I'm old skool about this stuff, my Connect is meant to be ok 'til 150k miles..............it'll have had 3 sets of belts and tensioners on by then! Just can't bring myself to do it any other way. I worked for Ford when they recommended changing the belt at 36k miles on the CVHs, we used to get them in with as little as 12k on them with the belt snapped. It's a powerful memory!
The CVH was a safe engine wasn't it ? I'm sure I remember having one fail on a company car , and in those days you just changed the belt.The same was true with Vauxhall Cavalier I had.
carinaman said:
I don't think CVH was 'safe', I may be wrong.
The Pinto was safe in 1.6, but not 2.0?
True the CVH is a non-interference engine so a failed cambelt shouldn't ruin the engine, besides those CVH were more than capable of dropping valves and smashing them into the pistons instead;)The Pinto was safe in 1.6, but not 2.0?
The first thing I would want to know if I was considering NOT changing it was whether the valves hit anything if it snaps, ie wwould it require a substantial rebuild. Or, does it just require the belt renewed after it breaks?
Many manufacturers say 'sealed for life', no maintenance required etc., often to reduce the on-paper running costs for fleets etc.. If it was mine, I'd want it changed just for peace of mind, irrespective of what the dealer says. Knowing someone who had a belt break and the hassle it caused I wouldn't think twice about it. Just my opinion.
Many manufacturers say 'sealed for life', no maintenance required etc., often to reduce the on-paper running costs for fleets etc.. If it was mine, I'd want it changed just for peace of mind, irrespective of what the dealer says. Knowing someone who had a belt break and the hassle it caused I wouldn't think twice about it. Just my opinion.
Nigel Worc's said:
If you're certain Vauxhall have it covered, why worry ?
They say it is but nothing in writing, when it comes to paying out they may change their tune.£309 for Cambelt/Tensioner & waterpump from Main dealer, it's less than I thought hence why I'm thinking about getting it done. Car runs perfect and I'm hoping to keep it a few years, warranty runs out in November 2014 anyway and I certainly won't be running it to 100k without warranty, so its now or 9 months time.
Casa1862 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
If you're certain Vauxhall have it covered, why worry ?
They say it is but nothing in writing, when it comes to paying out they may change their tune.£309 for Cambelt/Tensioner & waterpump from Main dealer, it's less than I thought hence why I'm thinking about getting it done. Car runs perfect and I'm hoping to keep it a few years, warranty runs out in November 2014 anyway and I certainly won't be running it to 100k without warranty, so its now or 9 months time.
Nice to see someone else does the waterpump and tensioner too !
carinaman said:
aka_kerrly said:
True the CVH is a non-interference engine so a failed cambelt shouldn't ruin the engine, besides those CVH were more than capable of dropping valves and smashing them into the pistons instead;)
I thought they were interference. I was wrong. Get it changed before 100K I had the pleasure of rebuilding a head of a Vectra 1.9 150 after the timing belt went at 92,000 but the car was well out of warranty. It mashed all the valves and damaged quite a few of the guides, this was all because of the water pump, so make sure they change that when they do the timing belt, also make sure they put a Gates timing belt kit (tensioner's ) don't bother with a genuine kit as it will be more money and will just be a Gates kit in a Vauxhall box.
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