R56 MINI Cooper S vs Mk5 Golf GTI
R56 MINI Cooper S vs Mk5 Golf GTI
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va1o

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16,114 posts

236 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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I feel an impulse purchase coming on this weekend and have decided its between the above two cars. It will just be used as a daily driver, mainly going to the station and back every day. Just fancy something a bit more interesting than the Leon I've been running for the past few months. Hopefully this will last me another few months until I get bored again and upgrade.

The MINI has marginally better fuel economy and will be slightly newer, but the Golf will obviously be more practical and comfortable. Performance is going to be neigh on the same.

Which and why? Or would you buy something else entirely different?

Al U

2,394 posts

160 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Not sure which Leon you're driving but the golf is essentially the same ingredients but of higher quality. I think the mini's handling would swing it for me and it will be that little bit more usable in town.

johnbanks

19 posts

250 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Mk V GTI is not comfortable on 18s. On 16s for winter ours is borderline.

Had it from new, it isn't any more knackered than the factory managed to make it.

Even the normal Mini of the vintage was uncomfortable and unreliable, not been in an S.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

198 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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I wasn't that impressed with the R56 I tested. Granted it was both early and quite leggy, but it was very firm, didn't feel very supple and the engine was a bit disappointing. Don't know whether I just tried a crap one or if they're all like that.

AndyT77

1,755 posts

191 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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ManOpener said:
I wasn't that impressed with the R56 I tested. Granted it was both early and quite leggy, but it was very firm, didn't feel very supple and the engine was a bit disappointing. Don't know whether I just tried a crap one or if they're all like that.
I've got a R56 S, and it's a decent little car. Sure the ride is stiff, bording on crashy on really poor surfaces, but it always puts a smile on my face driving it. The engine pulls really well in my opinion. Mine is on run flat tyres, so i'll be changing to normal tyres when they need replacing.

shoestring7

6,193 posts

275 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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johnbanks said:
Mk V GTI is not comfortable on 18s. On 16s for winter ours is borderline.

Had it from new, it isn't any more knackered than the factory managed to make it.

Even the normal Mini of the vintage was uncomfortable and unreliable, not been in an S.
OE VW dampers are knackered by 60k miles. Perhaps that's your problem.

SS7

petop

2,390 posts

195 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Other half has a Mini Cooper S and i like it every now and then from the 911 we have. But as others have said its very firm if your using run-flats. Certainly changing them when it needs new boots.

Siko

2,079 posts

271 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Had a similar conundrum recently and went with the Cooper S after test driving both. The Golf is a fabulous car but the MCS is a real hoot to drive, pretty economical and cheap to run and looks great in comparison IMO. Get the right spec one and it is a really special place to be inside of too; full leather, Harmon Kardon sound system and some nice trim feels upmarket and is truly a very nice place to spend time in smile

Yes there's loads of minis around, but I think with the right spec they still look good and in comparison to the golf, they feel relatively special to drive and own.

s m

24,472 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Siko said:
Had a similar conundrum recently and went with the Cooper S after test driving both. The Golf is a fabulous car but the MCS is a real hoot to drive, pretty economical and cheap to run and looks great in comparison IMO. Get the right spec one and it is a really special place to be inside of too; full leather, Harmon Kardon sound system and some nice trim feels upmarket and is truly a very nice place to spend time in smile

Yes there's loads of minis around, but I think with the right spec they still look good and in comparison to the golf, they feel relatively special to drive and own.
Came down to the same 2 cars almost ( R53 MCS instead of R56 ) some years back . Went for the Mini as it just felt better to drive on the same twisty test route. Had a bigger car for carrying stuff, long hols with the kids etc.
As above, if you get the Mini and want to really enjoy it, get a set of non-runflats, maybe in 16s too.

va1o

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16,114 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Just viewed a GTI, amusingly the guy selling it now has an 09 JCW MCS hehe

Pulse

10,922 posts

247 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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For you, I'd say you want a MINI Cooper S.

David87

7,023 posts

241 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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The R56 Cooper S is a great car, but the N14-powered examples have a bit of a name for unreliability and the ride is truly terrible. That said, cars with the later N18 engine and no run-flats are vastly better.

Miglia 888

1,006 posts

176 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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MINI. On 16's with non-runflats they ride fine and are so much fun to drive. If you really need a bit more practicality, don't overlook the Clubman which is as much fun to drive but has a longer wheelbase, some more ride comfort, and is big enough for four + some weekend luggage.

va1o

Original Poster:

16,114 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Pulse said:
For you, I'd say you want a MINI Cooper S.
Haha thanks!

Leon is now officially sold, so I'll update this thread once a replacement has been obtained...

Jim AK

4,029 posts

153 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Wouldnt touch the Mini.

Unreliable, uncomfortable & made by an offshoot of BMW. A company that does not & will not get customer service....... Ever.

That aside, from a practicality point of view the VW has proper capacity to seat 4, a useable boot & 5 doors, if thats your want. Have been half looking at them as replacement for our ageing Astra.

john banks

276 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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shoestring7 said:
OE VW dampers are knackered by 60k miles. Perhaps that's your problem.

SS7
They feel like they always have from new, it always had a skippy, crashing ride. The one I test drove felt the same, but it is the wife's car and it has redeeming features when it doesn't break of holding its value and being cheap to run.

rich83

15,779 posts

167 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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johnbanks said:
Mk V GTI is not comfortable on 18s.
Nonsense... Ive dont 60K miles in mine and its perfectly comfortable. No, its not a wafty 5 series but its not uncomfortable.

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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john banks said:
They feel like they always have from new, it always had a skippy, crashing ride. The one I test drove felt the same, but it is the wife's car and it has redeeming features when it doesn't break of holding its value and being cheap to run.
My MkV was on 17's and the ride was pretty good, not particularly skippy or crashing.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

216 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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johnbanks said:
Mk V GTI is not comfortable on 18s. On 16s for winter ours is borderline.

Had it from new, it isn't any more knackered than the factory managed to make it.

Even the normal Mini of the vintage was uncomfortable and unreliable, not been in an S.
This is good advice.

MKV GTi on 17s was compromised (in terms of NVH and comfort v grip) never mind on 18s.




Kev T360

366 posts

180 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Mini with go-flats and a can of gunk for when you get a flat tyre.