Should brake pads contact the whole disc
Should brake pads contact the whole disc
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jimmy156

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3,834 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Hi all,

I had the pads, discs and callipers changed on the rear of my 156 about a week ago. Since then I have noticed an area of corrosion on the disc about 2cm wide in the inside of the disc (near the hub). When I look it's clear the pad doesn't cover the whole disc. Is this normal. The parts were bought from a factors and fitted by a mechanic friend.

Tia

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Yes, there's often a gap between the inside of the pad and the hub, as well as a small lip on the outside of the disc.

wemorgan

3,583 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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a photo would help

rowanxx

95 posts

154 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Krikkit said:
Yes, there's often a gap between the inside of the pad and the hub, as well as a small lip on the outside of the disc.
This.

jimmy156

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3,834 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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wemorgan said:
a photo would help
Thanks guys, I will take a snap in a minute.

jimmy156

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Thursday 13th February 2014
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Apologies for the images (its pretty dark in my garage at night!)






Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

227 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Reason for this if often cheap st aftermarket pads. Just replaced rear disc and pads on my A6, pads fitted by last owner 1cm inner and outer gap, new pads hit full swept surface. If the manufacturer didn't need the swept area the disc provides they would fit smaller discs.

Orangecurry

7,792 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Woo-hoo a useful thread!


There are areas of the disc that are unswept by the pad, but I know what you mean; that inner bit looks slightly too large.

jimmy156 said:
Hi all,

I had the pads, discs and calipers changed on the rear of my 156 about a week ago. Since then I have noticed an area of corrosion on the disc about 2cm wide in the inside of the disc (near the hub). When I look it's clear the pad doesn't cover the whole disc. Is this normal. The parts were bought from a factors and fitted by a mechanic friend.

Tia
So is the inner unswept area larger than it was before?

Edited by Orangecurry on Thursday 13th February 19:49

jimmy156

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3,834 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Herman Toothrot said:
Reason for this if often cheap st aftermarket pads. Just replaced rear disc and pads on my A6, pads fitted by last owner 1cm inner and outer gap, new pads hit full swept surface. If the manufacturer didn't need the swept area the disc provides they would fit smaller discs.
Pads are MIntex from a factors.

Hmm, i guess its about the same but i had assumed that it was because the pads that i replaced were fooked lol.

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Did your mate clean the callipers properly? if not the edge of the pads could be getting stuck on dirt & not sliding so the whole pad contacts the disc.

catman

2,504 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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He said that the calipers were replaced..

Tim

Superhoop

4,913 posts

222 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Looks completely normal....

P I Staker

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185 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Superhoop said:
Looks completely normal....
Agreed.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

292 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Herman Toothrot said:
Reason for this if often cheap st aftermarket pads. Just replaced rear disc and pads on my A6, pads fitted by last owner 1cm inner and outer gap, new pads hit full swept surface. If the manufacturer didn't need the swept area the disc provides they would fit smaller discs.
Whilst some pads are larger than others.

I have NEVER come across any that sweep the entire disc area.

Particularly on newer / more powerful cars.

The larger discs give better leverage AND a larger area to dissipate heat.

Many uprated brake conversions consist of a spacer to move the std caliper and pad out further, enabling the use of a larger disc.

northandy

3,539 posts

250 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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P I Staker said:
Agreed.
Thirded, looks fine to me.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

227 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Upgraded brakes full disc swept, is about 1mm to the bell to allow pad clearance.

My 2000 A6 2.7T both front and rears sweep the full disc again with only enough gap for clearance, only reason they didn't for a while was cheap non OEM pads.

Sure some others may have some inner clearance being cheap and not using alloy bells (most non performance stuff), but outer edge more than a mm is just wrong no good reason at all and would interfere with pad changes as you would have to clear a lip to lift the caliper off.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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That caliper looks waaay too big for the tiny disc so I'm not surprised there's no lip around the edge. I'd be very surprised if that's what the car manufacturer intended.

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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catman said:
He said that the calipers were replaced..

Tim
Note to self: Read the damn thread properly paperbag

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

227 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
That caliper looks waaay too big for the tiny disc so I'm not surprised there's no ring around the edge.
What just like this?





Edited by Herman Toothrot on Thursday 13th February 20:47

Who me ?

7,455 posts

241 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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One of the problems with an unswept are on the outside is that it gives MOT places space for an advisory ,in the hope of work not needed. I've got OEM parts on mine and there's an unswept area on the outside. I discovered my MOT was too close for comfort and all the garages with appointment system were too late, so I use one I'd not normally use. The tester had a look at my front discs and shot in for a second opinion .Advisory -discs worn. Bit bothered ,at home I got out the micrometer and consulted Haynes. New 22mm, replace 19mm. The ridge was 22mm, using nuts to overcome the ridge, the swept area was 21mm. I got an RAC bloke to have a look, his advice was to get rid of the ridge as monkey MOT man had an excuse for advisory.