new bus stop design
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Spare tyre

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12,559 posts

159 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Near me we have a typical high street with nice wide pavements, that allow for bus stops, so the bus can pull into its layby and let traffic past

Lately they have been filling in these laybys so the bus has to stop on the road and hold up traffic until it moves again, whats this all about?

We now have big areas of new pavement where the layby for the bus was

Is this some sort of safety measure?

Now if we get a bus running early it just sits and can cause a jolly big delay for everyone else stuck behind it

Dog Star

17,597 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Wait for the other "improvements" - bus stops 20 yards past traffic-light controlled crossroads, and then the other classic from commie-car-haters - bus stops with a pedestrian refuge in the middle of the road about ten feet past the bus stop, again forcing the traffic to stop and wait when the bus does.

Absolute piss-boilers.

Graebob

2,172 posts

236 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Wonder if it has anything to do with how rarely I see buses being let out of their bays?

Baryonyx

18,281 posts

188 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Graebob said:
Wonder if it has anything to do with how rarely I see buses being let out of their bays?
Yes, Highway Code aside, we get stuck behind these (usually mostly empty) smoke blowing heaps of st far too often, It's hardly surprising courtesy towards them has waned.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Dog Star said:
Absolute piss-boilers.
yes

In a village local to me they actually have a bus stop in a one-at-a-time traffic calming area, so all traffic has to stop.

http://goo.gl/maps/Fld5X

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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I sometimes feel alone in thinking that big buses are amongst the most unsuitable vehicles for an urban environment imaginable.

Prizam

2,447 posts

170 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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hornetrider said:
Dog Star said:
Absolute piss-boilers.
yes

In a village local to me they actually have a bus stop in a one-at-a-time traffic calming area, so all traffic has to stop.

http://goo.gl/maps/Fld5X
Waw! That almost made me implode with rage!

zcacogp

11,239 posts

273 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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hornetrider said:
In a village local to me they actually have a bus stop in a one-at-a-time traffic calming area, so all traffic has to stop.

http://goo.gl/maps/Fld5X
Crumbs - that's one of the most stupid bits of road design I've seen in a long time. Deliberately calculated to cause the most delay and hindrance. Is it not worth a letter to a local councillor to ask what they are thinking of?


Oli.

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Baryonyx said:
Graebob said:
Wonder if it has anything to do with how rarely I see buses being let out of their bays?
Yes, Highway Code aside, we get stuck behind these (usually mostly empty) smoke blowing heaps of st far too often, It's hardly surprising courtesy towards them has waned.
Buses around my way are awful. If they are running early they crawl along at 15 mph without a care for what's behind. They pull out when they like, hazard lights means 'I'm stopping. NOW', they seem to follow each other around (empty) and have even stopped in the road to chat to the driver of the other bus coming in the opposite direction.

Do I show them much courtesy, I'm ashamed to admit that I don't.

Dog Star

17,597 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Prizam said:
hornetrider said:
Dog Star said:
Absolute piss-boilers.
yes

In a village local to me they actually have a bus stop in a one-at-a-time traffic calming area, so all traffic has to stop.

http://goo.gl/maps/Fld5X
Waw! That almost made me implode with rage!
furious

Strikes me that "anything goes" if you want to inconvenience car drivers.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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zcacogp said:
hornetrider said:
In a village local to me they actually have a bus stop in a one-at-a-time traffic calming area, so all traffic has to stop.

http://goo.gl/maps/Fld5X
Crumbs - that's one of the most stupid bits of road design I've seen in a long time. Deliberately calculated to cause the most delay and hindrance. Is it not worth a letter to a local councillor to ask what they are thinking of?


Oli.
Does my head in. I think the leftists in the council will tell you it's because school buses stop there and it reduces risk of kids running out into traffic. Boils my piss every morning though!

Also, if you whizz 200 yards further down the road there is a second one!!

http://goo.gl/maps/1Rjpl

TommoAE86

2,965 posts

156 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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hornetrider said:
yes

In a village local to me they actually have a bus stop in a one-at-a-time traffic calming area, so all traffic has to stop.

http://goo.gl/maps/Fld5X
The person(s) who approved this must be found and punished... what a stupid thing to do

stedale

1,125 posts

294 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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This sort of thing, I guess, is common: https://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.63158...


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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zcacogp said:
Crumbs - that's one of the most stupid bits of road design I've seen in a long time. Deliberately calculated to cause the most delay and hindrance. Is it not worth a letter to a local councillor to ask what they are thinking of?
Obviously it's because busses reduce congestion banghead

C.A.R.

3,992 posts

217 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Hackney

7,432 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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How about this one

Yes, that's a bus stop only a few metres from a very busy junction.
In the distance (well, about another 20m on) you can see the start of a bus lane. Why not put the bus stop in the bus lane? Too simple.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Hampshire style. Fill in the layby and add a traffic island, so you can't lawfully overtake the bus.



I assume this is all down to the idea that overtaking is "queue-jumping" and therefore cars getting past the bus move the bus further back in the "queue".

Or it could be as odious as simply making driving through Lyndhurst fractionally worse so taking trhe bus seems fractionally better.

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

12,559 posts

159 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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oh yes i forgot this one

The council have built (or allowed an "academy" to be built) on a land that was donated to them by some generous person that stipulated that it must always be used as a sports / leisure field, that pissed me off

But in their wisdom, they blocked up the perfectly good bus stop, and then put a pedestrian crossing ONTOP OF A FRIGGIN UNDERPASS!

Not only that they have to get teachers to stand on top of the frigging underpass to push the button to make kids use it

surely common sense would be to put up railings to funnel people to use the underpass

so now we have busses stopped next to the traffic lights all on top of an underpass

you can see where the yellow lines stop, thats where they layby used to be

Madness

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Lordshill+Roundab...

V8covin

10,183 posts

222 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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TommoAE86 said:
The person(s) who approved this must be found and punished... what a stupid thing to do
Those 2 examples are clearly deliberate.

You should send those pics to Clarkson,he'd have a field day taking the piss on Top Gear

Cliftonite

8,744 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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How about writing to the Council, enclosing photographs of the resulting queues, and ask them to justify their actions?

Ask who is to be responsible if a child is knocked down on the road when he/she could/should have been using the underpass?

How about reporting every stationary bus to the police for obstruction?

Padded out bus stops are nothing new. They appeared in Northampton a while ago:

http://goo.gl/maps/2zS2l

This is generally a very busy road; I can't imagine what time / day the Google car drove along here!