Go on then, recommend me some tyres.
Discussion
For quite a while I had a company car, and therefore little to no choice on tyres. For some reason since I've exclusively used Avon ZZ3s. Trouble is they don't do them any more so I need some recommendations. What I'll probably also get is a load of abuse for sticking with the Avons when they're so obviously terrible. That's fine too but I'd appreciate constructive comment, if I may be so bold.
Car's a C2 VTS Diesel run backwards and forwards to work 80, mostly dual-carriageway, miles a day. Obviously I'd like them to be both the cheapest and the best for all weather (that is, weather for which I wouldn't obviously be using winter tyres, phew). Size would be 195/45/16. I can fit and balance them so it's simply a case of what is best for both wet and dry. They don't have to last forever, the potholes tend to do for them before they wear out anyway.
If I've forgotten anything vital, feel free to swearily point it out. For openers, I was looking at Toyo Proxes T1R or Yokohama S Drive AS01.
Cheers in advance, Jim
Car's a C2 VTS Diesel run backwards and forwards to work 80, mostly dual-carriageway, miles a day. Obviously I'd like them to be both the cheapest and the best for all weather (that is, weather for which I wouldn't obviously be using winter tyres, phew). Size would be 195/45/16. I can fit and balance them so it's simply a case of what is best for both wet and dry. They don't have to last forever, the potholes tend to do for them before they wear out anyway.
If I've forgotten anything vital, feel free to swearily point it out. For openers, I was looking at Toyo Proxes T1R or Yokohama S Drive AS01.
Cheers in advance, Jim
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance. They're deathly quiet, very cheap and do well in the head to head testing in magazines etc. Not had them long, so can't comment on longevity, but there's nothing so far to suggest that they're likely to fall apart any time soon.
What's your problem with ZZ3s? Mine didn't last long, but then I drive an Audi TDi, so obviously I'm a driving God who goes everywhere at 11/10ths.
Simon.
What's your problem with ZZ3s? Mine didn't last long, but then I drive an Audi TDi, so obviously I'm a driving God who goes everywhere at 11/10ths.
Simon.
ferrariF50lover said:
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance. They're deathly quiet, very cheap and do well in the head to head testing in magazines etc. Not had them long, so can't comment on longevity, but there's nothing so far to suggest that they're likely to fall apart any time soon.
What's your problem with ZZ3s? Mine didn't last long, but then I drive an Audi TDi, so obviously I'm a driving God who goes everywhere at 11/10ths.
Simon.
Thanks chaps. No problem with the ZZ3s, I liked them. So much so that when I struggled to get some for my 206 and I saw four come up on ebay, I raced up to Clacton to pick them up. I only really needed one and still have a couple of spares in the garage. I was also pre-empting the accusations of lack of imagination. What's your problem with ZZ3s? Mine didn't last long, but then I drive an Audi TDi, so obviously I'm a driving God who goes everywhere at 11/10ths.
Simon.
Cheers, Jim
Kings350 said:
Uniroyal Rainsport 3 would be a very safe bet, a very good mid range tyre and not too expensive.
A vote here for Rainsports. I use Rainsport 2's on my Corrado and they're my absolutely favourite mid-priced tyre for all round ability. Wet weather performance is (as you'd expect from the name) excellent. telecat said:
I would check to see if Kumho or Falkens are available for your car. They are cheaper than Mainstream brands but are not far behind. They are also light years ahead of the Chinese stuff.
I find these to be really good tyres for the cash. I've had all types at all kinds of money and these are my favourite. Saying that though......the rainsport is a good tyre and worth of a lookdoogz said:
T1-Rs are better than the old T1-Ss, but tbh, they're not amazing in the grip stakes.
In the dry, I find them to be pretty good, and quite progressive.
In the wet, my traction isn't bad, but that's probably more because of the MR layout, but the lateral grip is pretty poor tbh. I find them a bit 'snappy' in the wet, not as progressive at breakaway as in the dry.
One of the few tyres I could get at the time in both sizes I needed (staggered wheels)
I find them pretty damn predictable/progressive in the wet. That's on a ff and fr, I guess it totally depends a lot on the car they're on.In the dry, I find them to be pretty good, and quite progressive.
In the wet, my traction isn't bad, but that's probably more because of the MR layout, but the lateral grip is pretty poor tbh. I find them a bit 'snappy' in the wet, not as progressive at breakaway as in the dry.
One of the few tyres I could get at the time in both sizes I needed (staggered wheels)
I'm a big fan of T1R's, they are noisey and they don't last particularly long however
jimmy the hat said:
Sensible votes for Rainsports by the looks of things. Wet Grip A rating for the Rainsport 3s. If someone can vouch that they're not hideous in the dry (this is also important), an online price of sub £240 for four looks almost unbeatable.
Cheers, Jim
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-3.htmCheers, Jim
Monty Python said:
Useful link, Monty, thanks.ferrariF50lover said:
Is that a fully fitted price?
Simon.
Nope, just delivered. I'll be fitting them.Simon.
Cheers, Jim
jimmy the hat said:
Sensible votes for Rainsports by the looks of things. Wet Grip A rating for the Rainsport 3s. If someone can vouch that they're not hideous in the dry (this is also important), an online price of sub £240 for four looks almost unbeatable.
Cheers, Jim
I had the 2's which were ok in the dry.. But brilliant in the wet. They took a good 500 miles to bed in.Cheers, Jim
I'd imagine the 3'scwould be an improvement in every respect.
jimmy the hat said:
Car's a C2 VTS Diesel run backwards and forwards to work 80, mostly dual-carriageway, miles a day. Obviously I'd like them to be both the cheapest and the best for all weather (that is, weather for which I wouldn't obviously be using winter tyres, phew). Size would be 195/45/16. I can fit and balance them so it's simply a case of what is best for both wet and dry. They don't have to last forever, the potholes tend to do for them before they wear out anyway.
My commute is almost identical. 80 miles on mostly motorway and dual carriage way but in a heavier car. BMW 5 Series Touring.I switched to Falken a few years back. I think ZE512 first and now ZE914. I get around 25-30K miles out of them.
£55 a tyre for your size.
http://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/brands/falken/zi...
Edited by Agent Orange on Friday 21st February 14:07
jimmy the hat said:
What I'll probably also get is a load of abuse for sticking with the Avons when they're so obviously terrible.
They are indeed terrible, insofar as it is the only brand of tyre I have seen suffer structural failure, both on my own car and two others.Proof that branding blinds. People would rather go with Avon because they've heard of them over something like, say, Sunny or Primewell tyres which are infinitely better in terms of product and quality control.
r11co said:
They are indeed terrible, insofar as it is the only brand of tyre I have seen suffer structural failure, both on my own car and two others.
Proof that branding blinds. People would rather go with Avon because they've heard of them over something like, say, Sunny or Primewell tyres which are infinitely better in terms of product and quality control.
I've had one bulge but I'd assume that was pothole damage. Proof that branding blinds. People would rather go with Avon because they've heard of them over something like, say, Sunny or Primewell tyres which are infinitely better in terms of product and quality control.
With me, it wasn't brand-blindness, it was resistance to change. We had a pair of 206 GTis and mine handled a lot better than hers, which I put down to hers having ditchfinders on it (when bought, not for long) and mine had the Avons so we just stuck with them. It wasn't the issue at all, even on the same tyres mine handled better. I think hers was bent.
Back in the day, I too had an MR2 Turbo that had stupid-sticky Yokos on that used to last about 300 yards but the grip was phenomenal. These days you'd get about 100 yards, hit a pot-hole and they'd all disintegrate.
I am doing my own research and faithfully promise to report back BTW.
Cheers, Jim
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