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elephantstone

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2,176 posts

186 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Right so im due to move out after summer and will be saying bye to my MX5 and getting a van.

We already have a Vivaro and our family business can afford to lease another for me. It will be my daily.. used for everything so needs to look smart.. body coloured bumpers etc and also have abit of poke and potentially auto.

I can't seem to look past the VW transporter 2.0tdi 140ps with the DSG, maybe in the highline spec?

I couldn't use the Vivaro as that will be for my brother to use and my dad and its a little basic for daily duties.

The new Transit Customs on my radar too but will it be seen as "just a transit"?

Image is important as i cant take my Mrs to a nice restaurant in a white scruffy van at the weekend..

Edited by elephantstone on Saturday 22 February 18:52

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

179 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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If image is most important then the Transporter is the van to be seen in. If having a decent van is more important I'd probably go Transit with some toys.

crossy67

1,570 posts

208 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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I bought a T5 a couple of years ago and wish I'd gone with them years ago. Load space is not the best compared to Transit but the drive and comfort is great, like driving a big car.

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

200 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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I have a Transit (not the Custom) with Limited spec plus heated leather & just about every other option that was available. The build quality is excellent, I think it portrays a good image, is a nice comfortable place to be. The T5 probably has better residuals but the lack of load space makes it a non starter for me.

m44kts

801 posts

229 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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I've grown quite fond of my Vivaro over the last 5 years/65k, (now on 150k), had very little trouble, (turbo and steering rack) and always said I'd be more than happy with another, but the T5 is looking more probable as they look a bit better. Had a very quick look round the Transit Custom, looked very smart and much more modern than the others.

If it's purely on price, new Vivaros can be had for around £13k in Sportive guise, think the Transits start at £18k and probably around the same for the VW.

If it were my money though, I'd go for the DSG VW. Beware though, just been reading about a problem with DSG in the transported that suffer from juddering when fully laden.

150bhp

908 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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m44kts said:
I've grown quite fond of my Vivaro over the last 5 years/65k, (now on 150k), had very little trouble, (turbo and steering rack) and always said I'd be more than happy with another, but the T5 is looking more probable as they look a bit better. Had a very quick look round the Transit Custom, looked very smart and much more modern than the others.

If it's purely on price, new Vivaros can be had for around £13k in Sportive guise, think the Transits start at £18k and probably around the same for the VW.

If it were my money though, I'd go for the DSG VW. Beware though, just been reading about a problem with DSG in the transported that suffer from juddering when fully laden.
The Vivaro starts at £19303 according to their website?

Little Lofty

3,879 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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150bhp said:
The Vivaro starts at £19303 according to their website?
List prices of most vans mean nothing, I bought a Vivaro sport for £12995 about 18 months ago, I think list is close to £20k. I'd like a Transporter but don't think its worth £10k+ more than mine.

elephantstone

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2,176 posts

186 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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m44kts said:
I've grown quite fond of my Vivaro over the last 5 years/65k, (now on 150k), had very little trouble, (turbo and steering rack) and always said I'd be more than happy with another, but the T5 is looking more probable as they look a bit better. Had a very quick look round the Transit Custom, looked very smart and much more modern than the others.

If it's purely on price, new Vivaros can be had for around £13k in Sportive guise, think the Transits start at £18k and probably around the same for the VW.

If it were my money though, I'd go for the DSG VW. Beware though, just been reading about a problem with DSG in the transported that suffer from juddering when fully laden.
Yeah i do like driving our Vivaro but want a newer design or something abit more classy. The DSG problem shouldn't affect me as i dont carry heavy stuff. Bedding sets and rugs.

The kit available impresses me in the transit but i think the transporter is just about right for what i need it for. Plus no auto in the transit and i am not too fond of changing gear in diesels.

150bhp

908 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Little Lofty said:
150bhp said:
The Vivaro starts at £19303 according to their website?
List prices of most vans mean nothing, I bought a Vivaro sport for £12995 about 18 months ago, I think list is close to £20k. I'd like a Transporter but don't think its worth £10k+ more than mine.
I take it VW won't discount their list price by anything close to what Vauxhall do? I've got a 2003 Renault Trafic and love it but its been a bit of a money pit so that would put me off buying a brand new one or Vivaro but at that price I could be tempted. How has yours faired and how did you go about getting such an amount off the list price?

frag68

273 posts

173 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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I either play drums in a band or work as a DJ most weekends, so a van is an essential tool for me, as well as working in an office during the week, so I also like a nice van. Image is very important to me as my weekend work is usually at very nice high end venues and don't want to be seen turning up in what could be classed as a works van.

I had the new shape Caddy in black for 7 years until mid last year and changed to a new silver Berlingo. The Bingo is much smarter in standard form, and certainly much quieter and better spec'd inside than the 7 year old Caddy, in fact its like a car to be honest.

It has carpets, electric windows, elec mirrors Bluetooth, satnav etc. which the Caddy didn't have and is much more refined. The Caddy to be fair was old and the SDI model, but looked the part. The Bingo is also smart with nice wheel trims in standard spec, but a nice set of grey/black alloys may be my next purchase for it, or colour coded bumpers from the car model to really set it off. I have had to replace the audio as it wasn't a patch on the VW, but apart from that, its standard.

If you don't need something as big as the Transporter, something like these vans could be an option. I got the Bingo pre registered 4 months before I bought it, with 8 miles on the clock for under £9500 plus VAT. Sportline Caddy is the biz though, but out of my price range.

elephantstone

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2,176 posts

186 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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frag68 said:
I either play drums in a band or work as a DJ most weekends, so a van is an essential tool for me, as well as working in an office during the week, so I also like a nice van. Image is very important to me as my weekend work is usually at very nice high end venues and don't want to be seen turning up in what could be classed as a works van.

I had the new shape Caddy in black for 7 years until mid last year and changed to a new silver Berlingo. The Bingo is much smarter in standard form, and certainly much quieter and better spec'd inside than the 7 year old Caddy, in fact its like a car to be honest.

It has carpets, electric windows, elec mirrors Bluetooth, satnav etc. which the Caddy didn't have and is much more refined. The Caddy to be fair was old and the SDI model, but looked the part. The Bingo is also smart with nice wheel trims in standard spec, but a nice set of grey/black alloys may be my next purchase for it, or colour coded bumpers from the car model to really set it off. I have had to replace the audio as it wasn't a patch on the VW, but apart from that, its standard.

If you don't need something as big as the Transporter, something like these vans could be an option. I got the Bingo pre registered 4 months before I bought it, with 8 miles on the clock for under £9500 plus VAT. Sportline Caddy is the biz though, but out of my price range.
I had a brand new Berlingo Multispace for a year in 2012. Nice car to drive but i need the extra space as we tend to nearly fill the Vivaro on stock buying days.

mikey k

13,074 posts

245 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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We have always run T5's on our fleet, no where near as reliable as VW suggest frown (dead turbo's, failed steering racks, common EGR faults etc)
So we are now running these

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/nv200

Car size car handling and car economy, a little shy on the performance and load capability but the lads who have them really like them and prefer them to the T5's.

IIRC it was van of the year in 2010

GoneAnon

1,703 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Vito. 3 lengths to choose from, auto available, can be colour-coded from the factory and tons of dress-up bits available if you want them, and 3 year unlimited mileage warranty just in case you need it.

If image is important a Mercedes-Benz bears no relaton to a V-Dub, Ford, Renault, Vauxhall, Citroen etc.

elephantstone

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2,176 posts

186 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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I suppose i had discounted the Vito due to seeing multiple rusty old vans. Just hadnt entered my mind but it will be brand new and under warranty.. Will have a looksie.

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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elephantstone said:
I suppose i had discounted the Vito due to seeing multiple rusty old vans.
They got over the rust. Build quality in general isnt much better than french etc though. Warenties worthless too if dealer wants it to be.

I have an 57 120 (3.0cdi) and its a hoot but juicy, has proper torque converter auto and loads of options, car like to drive

elephantstone

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2,176 posts

186 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Hmm i think its down to the Transit custom and the transporter. Its hard to ignore how much more modern the cab looks in the transit and you get alot of toys..

GoneAnon

1,703 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Someone said to me recently that the reason we see lots of rusty old Mercedes vans is that they have lasted longer than the others!

elephantstone

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186 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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GoneAnon said:
Someone said to me recently that the reason we see lots of rusty old Mercedes vans is that they have lasted longer than the others!
Hmm not sure about that one!

crossy67

1,570 posts

208 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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From the perspective of someone who pulls vehicles apart and puts them back together I'd say Mercedes rot the worst, especially Sprinter and VAG LT but the Transit aren't far behind.

GTRmad

248 posts

200 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Buff Mchugelarge said:
If image is most important then the Transporter is the van to be seen in. If having a decent van is more important I'd probably go Transit with some toys.
The transporter has to be the most over rated van of all time.
A guy I work with has had on a 90k van,clutch & flywheel, starter & alternator, turbo and intercooler. plus split pipe work.
p/steering pump.gear box cables & selector.
You can keep vw,My Vivaro has 133k only had a gear box repair,Which was only a tight shaft.



Edited by GTRmad on Saturday 22 February 22:12