RFL been reduced!
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Censorious

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15,169 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Just purchased my RFL on line which was £30 last year but is now only £20.

Gov't must have dropped the price of RFL?

Censorious

Original Poster:

15,169 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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So hss RFL gone down for anyone else?

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Isn't that normal? £30 Y1, £20 Y2+ in one of the brackets?

nottyash

4,671 posts

224 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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If its that cheap it can't be anything worth driving ;-)

B'stard Child

31,093 posts

275 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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nottyash said:
If its that cheap it can't be anything worth driving ;-)
PH Official Post biggrin

bazza white

3,761 posts

157 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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I'm sure mines gone down from £280 (270 maybe) to £225. I'll check when the new one arrives.


nipsips

1,167 posts

164 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Mines gone up from £270 to £280. For a ****ing 2.0 Focus. Wouldn't mind if it went back into the roads... Oh well such is life smile

Easternlight

3,927 posts

173 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Mines gone up £15



And it's still worth every penny drivingsmile

carl_w

10,744 posts

287 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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nipsips said:
Mines gone up from £270 to £280. For a ****ing 2.0 Focus. Wouldn't mind if it went back into the roads... Oh well such is life smile
I've got a 1.6 Saxo that's £280. The car only cost £800.

scrwright

3,164 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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How much pence per litre fuel tax would it cost to ditch the RFL?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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scrwright said:
How much pence per litre fuel tax would it cost to ditch the RFL?
Wikipedia says that VED raised £5.6bn in 2009, and the combination of VED and fuel duty raised £32bn in the same year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoring_taxation_in_...

So that's £26.4bn from fuel duty. In 2009, fuel duty was 56.2p/litre, which means about 470m litres of dutiable fuel must've been sold. So about 12p/litre to go on fuel duty to balance VED.

BUT... that ignores one detail. It'd massively increase the tax burden on heavy fuel users - and VED rises have explicitly "gone light" on HGVs over the last few budgets, because high fuel duties are already causing them to be uncompetitive.

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Censorious said:
Just purchased my RFL on line which was £30 last year but is now only £20.

Gov't must have dropped the price of RFL?
You mean VED.

RFL ceased to exist in 1936.

E65Ross

36,729 posts

241 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Just paid £154 or something for my 4.4L V8. Meh, worth it.

scrwright

3,164 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
Wikipedia says that VED raised £5.6bn in 2009, and the combination of VED and fuel duty raised £32bn in the same year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoring_taxation_in_...

So that's £26.4bn from fuel duty. In 2009, fuel duty was 56.2p/litre, which means about 470m litres of dutiable fuel must've been sold. So about 12p/litre to go on fuel duty to balance VED.

BUT... that ignores one detail. It'd massively increase the tax burden on heavy fuel users - and VED rises have explicitly "gone light" on HGVs over the last few budgets, because high fuel duties are already causing them to be uncompetitive.
Interesting, but aren't HGV's very expensive to tax (not looked TBH) Given VED is a green tax now by its bands ditching it altogether & taxing by fuel useage (rather than frigged CO2 figures) would make more sense? No VED and say 8p a litre on fuel......

GC8

19,910 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Yes, but the government has consistently referred to it as both RFL and tax for the last eighty years, so its a semantic point.

GC8

19,910 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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In case I get dragged into a pointless argument: by 'the government' I really mean politicians/MPs/ministers of state and I am referring to my own experience, so I will not be providing 'proof'.

kambites

71,474 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Mine has gone up five pounds a year for the last few years, which is probably less than inflation.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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£280 a year for unlimited use of our roads and worth every penny!

f1nn

2,694 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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BFG TERRANO said:
£280 a year for unlimited use of our roads and worth every penny!
Imagine trying to explain that to an E.T. "Yeah so we pay £280 a year to use the roads"

E.T. "Where did the money come from to build the roads"

"Erm, we paid for them"

E.T. "So.... You pay tax to use a road you paid tax to build"



Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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f1nn said:
Imagine trying to explain that to an E.T. "Yeah so we pay £280 a year to use the roads"

E.T. "Where did the money come from to build the roads"

"Erm, we paid for them"

E.T. "So.... You pay tax to use a road you paid tax to build"
yes